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Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution



Walter Landry <wlandry@ucsd.edu> writes:

> And to answer a question posed by Steve Langsek, yes, people can lie.
> People have always been able to break licenses.  Just because it is
> difficult to police doesn't make it irrelevant.  Debian still has to
> make it a condition that people don't make nukes with the software.

No, we don't have to make it a condition.  We simply have to be
careful not to actually make such a distribution knowingly.  Just like
we don't have to get the assurance from our users that they will
follow the licenses on the packages, right?

> > I would not object to the reverse IP lookups, but if it's any real
> > hassle, we could drop that too.
> 
> What part of 
> 
>   We recommend that you perform IP checking and deny downloads to
>   known embargoed countries. This due diligence also would provide a
>   defense to a claim of civil liability.
> 
> don't you understand?

I understand it just fine.  "We recommend" does not mean "you must do
XXX to be in compliance with the law".  

> You obviously think it is worth it.  I might even agree with you.  Or
> I might not.  Certainly not everyone agrees with you.  Florian, for
> example.

I have no concern to try and get everyone to agree with me.  Debian
does not to have Florian's approval before we do something.

> As an additional point, Debian may still have to have a non-us archive
> for the non-free programs.  

Those aren't part of Debian.  I don't particularly care about how this
affects software which is not part of Debian.



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