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Re: after a long thread and a clarification with O'Reilly ...

On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 04:21:49PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> ... I managed to obtain another version of their "notes" for the book
> redistribution, following this notes the answer to Thomas' question is:
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2002 at 11:42:46PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Can someone take all and only the O'Reilly books from the Debian
> > distribution, and print them, and sell them (as an aggregate) to
> > whoever they want?  
> Yes.
> And these are the new "notes" that O'Reilly wants to be present in the
> debian package of the book.
>    ===========================
>    This document is the official (1.0) electronic version of the book
>    "Développement d'applications avec Objective Caml", written by
>    Emmanuel Chailloux, Pascal Manoury, and Bruno Pagano, and published
>    by Éditions O'Reilly under ISBN 2-84177-121-0. Authors and publishers
>    are willing to make this document freely available on any medium,
>    provided that
>    - the content of the official version is not modified without
>      expressed agreement of the authors or the publisher.
>    - unofficial modifications expressely state so, while always
>      providing users with a live pointer to the corresponding official
>      version.
>    - commercial products that include this document are themselves
>      compliant with the DSFG and don't consist of this document only.

This will probably be the problematic point about the whole of this.

>    - this very notice is made easily available to any user of the
>      document
>    ===========================
> Now, this new version seems to clarify a bounce of problems, starting
> from the medium ranging to the aggregate problem.
> What you think about this now?
> Note that I will not upload in main unless we manage to reach an
> agreement on this list; moreover, I know that decisions needs
> discussions, but if we can't manage to reach an agreement I will upload
> the book in non-free, continue the discussion on this list and with
> O'Reilly and move the book to main if this will be the case when we
> eventually reach an agreement.

Yes, this would be the right think to do.

> Note also that (YES, I'm repeating myself) I don't know if O'Reilly
> fully understand the conseguence of the above notes, but these are not
> what we are discussing for, we are discussing about compliance with
> DFSG. If somebody wants to help O'Reilly in writing book license I can
> forward the O'Reilly contact to him that can propose himself for a legal
> consulence.
> I also have to say that Sven understood my points and explained them
> correctly, probably with an english that is better than mine :)

Well, not so sure about the english stuff.


Sven Luther

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