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Re: Home Directory in SSD



Hi,

First of all, I apologize for starting an off-topic discussion.

i'm using an Intel 535 Series 120GB SSD. So I believe that it is reliable and good quality product.

I don't have any videos in any of my computers, all of them are moved to DVDs and I consider them as unnecessary. I have only work related documents, software, source code (in sync with my git server in a VPS) that I'm working on etc in my computers. And some other personal documents, pictures etc.

I have installed the entire OS in the SSD now. But considering the failure rate of all SSDs in common, I'm thinking of creating a partition for /home in the HDD and mount it during boot. But as I have already created /home in the SSD, I have to move that to the new partition in HDD now. I can leave /root in the SSD itself, as suggested by Matus UHLAR in the other email thread. This method will secure the user data on the fly, even though there is a compromise in performance (not a big deal).

I have a 1TB External HDD, which I'm using to take backup of all my data once in a month. As an alternative, I can keep the /home in the SSD itself and take regular backups once in a week. This method is okay, but I think I will avoid this method as there is still a risk of loosing the /home data if the SSD fails in between the backup period.

Thanks,
Jos Collin

On 02/07/2016 04:41 AM, Aleksandar Atanasov wrote:
Backups are usually supposed to be done on a different storage device
than the one that is actively used. I wouldn't include the "backup
scenario" here unless Jos is doing backups of a storage device onto the
storage device itself (if that is the case I would strongly recommend
NOT to do that).

As for the quality of SSDs - yes, it has improved greatly (example for
some test of longevity:
http://techreport.com/review/27436/the-ssd-endurance-experiment-two-freaking-petabytes).
I have read however that SSDs are much more susceptible to power failure
compared to HDDs leading to a higher data corruption in case a poor
electrical grid is used to power the device up. However in terms of
protecting your data from shocks (dropping the notebook onto the floor)
SSDs are definitely much better. Because of the mechanics that are
involved in HDDs, such drives are less suitable for the task of storing
data on mobile devices.

Needless to say both HDDs and SSDs are not meant for long term storage.
That is way things like tape drives are still produced and widely
popular among people who work with servers (in terms of longevity,
capacity etc. tape storage blows both HDDs and SSDs away by a lot but
the main issue there is definitely the steep price for the device that
are used to read those).

My suggestion, Jos, is to start looking at various tech reports with
tests and detailed description of the scenarios those tests were
performed for so that you can decide for yourself what to do. I'm
backing up my data on a regular basis to an external drive (even have a
tape drive here somewhere but there seems to be some problem with it (or
with Linux using it :D)) and if it wasn't for the fact that my Vaio is
more than 6 years old and has a SATA2 (yes...TWO) I would have changed
my HDD for an SSD long ago. If your notebook is mostly stationary (as a
desktop replacement) you can go with a SSD (for regularly used files) +
HDD (for less regularly used files) combo. SSDs are relatively new but I
do believe they will replace the HDDs in the near future because - let's
face it - in terms of innovation the HDD-departament isn't doing that
much except increasing the storage density which will also stop at one
point.

Regards,
Alex


On 02/06/2016 11:00 PM, Tom Dial wrote:
Doing regular backups takes pretty good care of device failure.
Depending on how it is done, it also can help recover from accidents
other than equipment failure, like deleting files in error.

That said, I have read that for some time SSD reliability has been at
least on a par with HDDs.  And you also do not want to have to recover
data from a failed HDD.

Tom

On 02/06/2016 07:00 AM, Jos Collin wrote:
Hello,

I have Debian/testing installed completely in my 120GB SSD. I have
learned that if an SSD fails, it is difficult to recover data from them.
An SSD often does not give much warning before it fails.
Electronic components don’t begin to grind or buzz as they grow older.
They work – and then they don’t.

So do I have to consider this risk and move the /home and /root
directories to an HDD as they contain the Personal Data of each user,
and only keep the Operating System files in the SSD ? How do you people
keep the /home and /root directories, when you install the OS in an SSD
? (I have an Ultrabay Caddy, in which I can connect the HDD also in my
Thinkpad T61).

Please advice.

Thanks,
Jos Collin




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