Re: can't restore from suspend
On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 10:59:31AM +0200, mi wrote:
> Emma Jane Hogbin [Donnerstag, 17. April 2003 02:12]:
> >| which says APM isn't supported. (Which means I need to stick with ACPI to
> >| get my overclocked fan under control.)
> Perhaps it wasn't the fan but the cpu who was overclocked ?
> Anyway an acpi issue, then.
Either or, yes. The fan was on, but it may have been on because of something else.
> >| Because I can't find what's triggering the suspend. :(
> Hmm... how to find out ?
> It would first find out if there's a timeout (idle time after that the event
> occurs).
Ah, yes. I thought I'd said it was when I was idle this was happening. As long as
I'm working and not making supper or watching TV everything is/was fine.
(I just took an extended break and the screen saver/blank screen came on,
but the computer didn't freeze. I have the opportunity to give it even
more idle time today and I'll report back on how it does.)
> btw is the battery status recognized correctly (at least the fact it's
> plugged into main) ?
It sees the battery, but apparently the battery functions don't work:
http://wojas.vvtp.tudelft.nl/acertm/
HMMMMM, it does for me though:
emmajane@debian:~$ more /proc/acpi/battery/0/status
Present: yes
State: discharging
Present Rate: unknown
Remaining Capacity: 2880 mAh
Battery Voltage: 14800 mV
emmajane@debian:~$ more /proc/acpi/battery/0/status
Present: yes
State: discharging
Present Rate: unknown
Remaining Capacity: 2840 mAh
Battery Voltage: 14800 mV
At least the remaining capacity gets smaller as time goes on. I'd love it
if it told me in minutes how much time I have left, but let's not get
ahead of ourselves.
> ok...so i guess it's more for real acpi specialists ... sorry that i butted I
> just like weird problems, true.
I'm all for weird problems when they're someone else's. ;)
> problem reports. However, my impression is the device table to be more
> important with booting problems.
I have the feeling it's a software problem from within all the things I
know nothing about. Like a Power Management setting that I don't even know
is set. This experience has *definitely* not been one for the plus side of
debian. My biggest beef is that it *may* have been the double installation
of apmd AND acpid which caused the conflict. Why wouldn't the install of
acpid remove apmd?
> Hey, there _must_ be some people around the world running exactly your laptop
> with linux ! Some of them with acpi working ....
*g* I think I'm the only English-speaking one, either that or they're all
using sucky red hat or mandrake (or sucky suse -- my school is all suse based). ;)
> Perhaps you ask the acpi (+/- developer) list if there are any problems known
> special to yours.
I will tonight if the removal of the apmd hasn't fixed things.
> >| I'm not sure at what point the system suspends...
> No idle-time ? The other two cases i know are battery low and cpu overheat.
Ah, it is an idle thing, yes. Not anything to do with the battery because
I'm usually plugged into a wall socket when it happens.
Is there a good laptop/power management/settings HOWTO out there? I'll
happily write one and post it here for comments if no one knows about one.
> ... Anyway better you'd find the event handling ... i imagine somthing
> similar to /etc/apm/ directory here. 'man acpid' must reveal this, if it
> exists. But maybe all echo > /proc/acpi is done by 'frontends' now ?
It is done by front ends. man acpid is virtually useless compared to man
apmd.
http://www.lab.inf.uc3m.es/cgi-bin/man2html?acpid+8
http://www.gsp.com/cgi-bin/man.cgi?section=8&topic=apmd (although I'm sure
mine was more detailed than this one--which is pretty parse as well)
> >| I had kde (just installed fluxconf which un-installed kde stuff). But the
> >| power management tools were all turned OFF. (I checked.)
> klaptopdaemon ? sleepd ? daemons are always suspisious. It's their nature ;-)
/sigh/ I didn't know about those ones. This is what I have running right
now:
emmajane@debian:~$ ps aux
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
root 1 0.1 0.1 1216 456 ? S 10:08 0:04 init [2]
root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [keventd]
root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SWN 10:08 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [kswapd]
root 5 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [bdflush]
root 6 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [kupdated]
root 8 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [khubd]
root 142 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SW 10:08 0:00 [eth0]
root 149 0.0 0.3 2104 824 ? S 10:09 0:00 dhclient -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid eth0
daemon 154 0.0 0.1 1316 388 ? S 10:09 0:00 [portmap]
root 235 0.0 0.2 1980 756 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/syslogd
root 238 0.0 0.5 2096 1356 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/klogd
root 247 0.0 0.2 1216 528 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/acpid -c /etc/acpi/events -s /var/run/
root 261 0.0 1.1 6472 2960 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd
root 279 0.0 0.2 1940 728 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
root 298 0.0 0.4 2208 1152 ? S 10:09 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/safe_mysqld
mysql 333 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld]
mysql 334 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld]
mysql 335 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld]
mysql 338 0.0 1.8 36840 4748 ? S 10:09 0:00 [mysqld]
root 363 0.0 0.2 1348 676 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/cardmgr
root 484 0.0 0.4 2432 1108 ? S 10:09 0:00 [master]
postfix 487 0.0 0.3 2384 988 ? S 10:09 0:00 [pickup]
postfix 488 0.0 0.4 2440 1068 ? S 10:09 0:00 [qmgr]
root 499 0.0 1.6 5156 4148 ? S 10:09 0:00 /usr/bin/X11/xfs -daemon
root 514 0.0 0.3 2108 836 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/dhclient eth1
root 517 0.0 0.3 2072 860 ? S 10:09 0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd
root 520 0.0 0.7 1928 1928 ? SL 10:09 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd
daemon 529 0.0 0.2 1316 552 ? S 10:10 0:00 [atd]
root 532 0.0 0.2 1396 652 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
root 536 0.0 1.6 138188 4148 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/sbin/apache
root 548 0.0 0.2 2140 656 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/kdm
root 552 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty1 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
root 553 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty2 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
root 554 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty3 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
root 555 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty4 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
root 556 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty5 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
root 557 0.0 0.1 1200 428 tty6 S 10:10 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
root 558 0.2 6.4 281652 16560 ? S<L 10:10 0:08 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp vt7 -aut
www-data 559 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache]
www-data 560 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache]
www-data 561 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache]
www-data 562 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache]
www-data 563 0.0 1.6 138196 4160 ? S 10:10 0:00 [apache]
root 564 0.0 0.4 2632 1264 ? S 10:10 0:00 -:0
emmajane 583 0.0 0.8 4020 2076 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/fluxbox
emmajane 610 0.0 0.2 2136 760 ? S 10:10 0:00 /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/fluxbox
emmajane 625 0.0 1.3 5948 3344 ? S 10:10 0:00 [Eterm]
emmajane 626 0.0 0.5 2316 1364 pts/0 S 10:10 0:00 -bash
emmajane 628 0.0 0.3 1896 988 ? S 10:10 0:00 fetchmail
emmajane 630 0.0 0.7 3132 1936 pts/0 S 10:10 0:00 mutt
emmajane 865 0.0 1.2 5896 3284 ? S 10:23 0:00 [Eterm]
emmajane 866 0.0 0.5 2316 1364 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 -bash
emmajane 867 0.0 0.4 2124 1064 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/phoenix/run-mozilla.sh /usr/l
emmajane 873 0.5 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:17 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 875 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 876 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 877 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 879 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:23 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 892 0.0 11.5 44400 29512 pts/1 S 10:24 0:00 /usr/local/phoenix/phoenix-bin
emmajane 1008 0.0 0.8 3148 2120 pts/0 S 10:53 0:01 vi -c :set textwidth=74 wrapmargin=4 nonumber /t
emmajane 1015 0.0 1.3 5988 3392 ? S 10:56 0:00 [Eterm]
emmajane 1016 0.0 0.5 2324 1404 pts/2 S 10:56 0:00 -bash
postfix 1087 0.0 0.5 2684 1344 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtpd]
postfix 1088 0.0 0.3 2372 940 ? S 11:12 0:00 [proxymap]
postfix 1089 0.0 0.4 2416 1032 ? S 11:12 0:00 [cleanup]
postfix 1090 0.0 0.3 2388 960 ? S 11:12 0:00 [trivial-rewrite]
postfix 1091 0.0 0.4 2600 1264 ? S 11:12 0:00 [local]
postfix 1094 0.0 0.5 2680 1344 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtpd]
postfix 1095 0.0 0.4 2492 1248 ? S 11:12 0:00 [smtp]
emmajane 1098 0.0 0.2 2492 760 pts/2 R 11:14 0:00 ps aux
> >| Not sure. It was supposed to be KDE and the matrix screen saver but
> >| something else was overriding it and giving a black screen.
> Something ! It's funny, isn't it ;-)
I'd love to know what it was...The problem I have with (linux?) is that there
are so many packages that you have to know. I thought that debian was
going to take care of the dependencies, but even it doesn't do a perfect
job. e.g. how could I have more than one type of screen saver installed?
If you already have one screen saver then you shouldn't have another. I
realize that linux isn't *supposed* to be easy...I do think it should be
easier though. (Although I realize it's always getting easier--I'm just
flabbergasted at the amount of time it took me to even realize that my
power management settings weren't right...)
> Usually, I'd say this is the BIOS, then. What does it's config say ?
Where do I look for that?
> One more idea. There's a powermanagement-option in /etc/XF86Config-4.
> It's for 'green' monitors, not for laptop-lcd's, afaik. But wdikaa...
Don't see anything in there...but if you want to look too, it's here:
http://xtrinsic.com/geek/code/XF86Config-4.txt
> After all the problems i heard about acpi i hardly can believe that ....
Probably they don't even realize it's not working. ;)
> >| /proc/acpi/processor/0/info
> It's no more called /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/info ?
Not on my machine...
> If this is not existent i would wonder if the patching was alright...
> ( btw. perhaps you try kernel 2.5.6 ? But i can't say what this would imply
> to install, then. Perhaps someone else on this list is running a 2.5 kernel ?)
It's very possible it's not correctly installed. The stuff I was reading
didn't say anything about needed to patch the system, it just said that I
needed a 2.4.20 kernel.
> I think what we really do need is a dedicated laptop distro.
> If i remember right, Werner Heuser proposed this already...
I'd be hip to that. I wouldn't want to stray too far though. Most of my
problems have been things that the main debian-user list has helped me
with.
thanks!
emma
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