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RE: sound issues



well it took a while but we got there eventually.
I recompiled my kernel three times, reinstalled twice, compiled my way
through three days of faffing with the alsa drivers and came to the
conclusion that it just wasn't going to happen for me.
I have a fairly old(ish) laptop with an ES1788 Plug and Play Audiodrive card
on it. I know it works because I whipped the hardrive out and popped in the
spare that still has windows on it. I have no idea what I did wrong or why I
couldnt get the alsa drivers to work with it, the final time, there were no
error messages, nothing. Everything compiled ok, everything said it was
there, then it said it proclaimed "can't locate module snd-card-........".
So i gave up and went to http://www.opensound.com, downloaded the drivers,
ran the install, answered three questions and had sound.
$20 and five minutes or (looking at the start date of this) nearly two weeks
of fiddling. Kind of enjoyable in a peverse way ;) I now know my machine and
install intimately, but I have to say OSS won hands down for me, and to be
fair Alsa dont actually say they support (fully) the ES1788, I did find some
literature on it, but that didnt really come to any overly succesful
comclusions.

Thanks all for the suggestions and pointers.

tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Gunning [mailto:TimG@profero.com] 
Sent: 28 April 2003 19:06
To: 'star@starshine.org'
Cc: 'debian-laptop@lists.debian.org'
Subject: RE: sound issues


i give in.
I've recompiled a new kernel which threw no errors just ended up in a
endless booting loop (yes I know I should have been quite so gung-ho but it
was a learning curve !) reinstalled from scratch, not compiled in sound
hardware and a day later I'm back here again. cat blah.wav > /dev/dsp 
returns No such device
it is there, I'm in the group, the perms are correct, alsas installed, the
kernel was compiled without sound but with sound support enabled, soundcore
is in lsmod (although now it says (autoclean)(unused), sndconfig throws a
wobbler saying I dont have a kernel with sound enabled. Has anyone ever
fixed/found a workaround for this ? I have searched all w/end and can only
find the problem and no solution. I'm happy to try recompiling again if
anyone thinks that might work, (any suggestions on which kernel-source to
compile as 2.4.x went mental on me ;)

Alsa says it the most up to date version, but I cant seem to get it to do
anything.

Any pointers or anything really would be very appreciated

thanks

tim


-----Original Message-----
From: star@starshine.org [mailto:star@starshine.org] 
Sent: 24 April 2003 20:59
To: Tim Gunning
Cc: 'debian-laptop@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Re: sound issues


On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 05:40:32PM +0100, Tim Gunning wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> Ive been looking for most of the day but cant seem to find anything
> that really helps me. When KDE loads I get the "/dev/dsp cannot be 
> opened debian" message, CD's play fine though, just nothing else, I 
> tried "modprobe sb esstype=1788" (from another preson having this 
> prob) but got device busy/resource busy, the soundcard is a ESS 1778.
> Below is the output from lsmod and lspci
> lspci:
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C501/2
> 00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513 (rev 01)
> 00:01.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C601 (rev 01)
> 00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems TGUI
9660/968x/968x
> (rev d3)
> 00:0d.0 PCMCIA bridge: Omega Micro Inc. 82C092G (rev 02) 00:0e.0 
> PCMCIA bridge: Omega Micro Inc. 82C092G (rev 02)
> 
> lsmod:
> Module                  Size  Used by    
> xirc2ps_cs             12532   1 
> soundcore               2452   0  (autoclean)
> ds                      6048   4  [xirc2ps_cs]
> i82365                 21092   4 
> pcmcia_core            42408   0  [xirc2ps_cs ds i82365]
> af_packet               6152   1  (autoclean)
> ppp                    20316   0  (unused)
> slhc                    4384   0  [ppp]
> ip_masq_raudio          2944   0  (unused)
> ip_masq_portfw          2536   0  (unused)
> ip_masq_mfw             3156   0  (unused)
> ip_masq_irc             2064   0  (unused)
> ip_masq_ftp             3584   0  (unused)
> nfsd                  159768   0  (unused)
> nfs                    40556   0  (unused)
> lockd                  41756   0  [nfsd nfs]
> sunrpc                 57816   0  [nfsd nfs lockd]
> unix                   11352 102  (autoclean)
> 
> dunno if Im missing something but I cant see a sound device in there.
> I've tried using sndconfig but its asking me to recompile my kernel 
> with soundcore.o (is this my whole problem ?), if so can anyone point 
> me in the right direction.

It must be missing siomething else as a shim over soundcore, cuz' your lsmod
actually *has* soundcore loaded.  See the second one down.

I'm booted under a kernel which has all my sound parts compiled in, but 
when they were modular, I had to make sure I had my snd-* module for my
card... much like pcmcia_core doesn't make pcmcia work, you also need your
bus support to be loaded.  


* Heather Stern * star@ many places...
                * Starshine Technical Services -*- 800 938 4078


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