Re: Bug#747697: [LCFC] templates://debian-security-support/{debian-security-support.templates}
Justin B Rye wrote...
> If we need a synonym for "limited" that clearly isn't talking about
> duration, we might talk about support being "reduced" or "downgraded"
> or something. Or looking at the version in my last patch:
Oops, that explains something. I didn't realize "limited" could be
understood in a "limited in time" sense. These things happen when
you're into this for a too long time.
> # This package provides a program to identify installed packages for
> # which it has been necessary to limit or prematurely end support, and to
> # alert the administrator.
>
> It might not be necessary to change that - I would hope that in "limit
> or prematurely end" it's clear that "limit" itself can't mean
> "prematurely end" - but if I try to rephrase it I end up with:
>
> This package provides a program to identify installed packages for
> which it has been necessary to end or reduce security support early,
> and to alert the administrator.
>
> Is that any better?
I'm not convinced. Another idea was to explain both like in "necessary
to limit support to a certain extent or end it ahead of schedule", but
honestly, I'm not sure whether this is worth the efforts. So let's
stay where we are.
> Then there's that final paragraph that we still need to thrash out.
>
> | Updated checklists are provided via regular and/or security updates.
>
> Does "regular updates" mean "updates every n days", or "updates of the
> usual kind" (which would normally mean "uploaded to unstable"), or
> what exactly?
Rather the latter, but not the "normal" path.
> The alternative of
> | Updated checklists are provided by new package versions.
> is a bad idea since all packages have new versions, but the default
> assumption in Debian is that they won't reach stable, and this doesn't
> explicitly override that default. How about something like:
>
> New versions updating the checklists included in the stable release
> will be provided via security updates.
>
> But it would help if we had a cover term meaning "security updates in
> the strict sense, LTS updates, and whatever other kinds are
> appropriate". Maybe "support updates"? "Special updates"? Maybe
> even
>
> New versions of this package with updated checklists will be provided
> via standard and/or extended security support.
We should pick to that one. Moritz, short ACK oder NACK since this
introduces the "extended" term instead of "LTS"?
> JBR with qualifications in linguistics, experience as a Debian
> sysadmin, and probably no clue about this particular package
Christoph, a bit worn out, extending that discussion further will
likely not gain any significant improvement.
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