Re: Explicit mention of normal CD for netinst images
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Removing the French contributors list, adding debian-boot as suggested
in the initial thread (on debian-www only), and also debian-cd that
might be of help here. Setting reply only to debian-www and
debian-l10n-english, since it's a web page issue (but this can be
argued), and that debian-l10n-english contributors kindly offer to
address it. Please refer to the full thread  for more input.
Full quote of one of the last mail bellow, let me just add (with my www
contributor hat on) that your help is really welcome on this issue: this
page  should continue to offer direct links, together with a short
information as it is now (and making this information accurate and
understandable would definitely be an improvement ;-). Merging
information from the CD part  would also be welcome, so we may remove
the last page to avoid dispatched and redundant information.
Le 21/09/2011 04:00, Jonathan Nieder a écrit :
> Hi again,
> Just a few quick clarifications.
> Justin B Rye wrote:
>> Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>>> - A _netboot_ image ("small bootable CD image for network install")
>>> contains only the Debian installer components needed to boot up,
>>> connect to the network, and acquire the rest of the installer from
>>> a Debian mirror. This is usable for non-netboot setups, too!
>>> - A (larger) graphical variant of the netboot image.
>>> - Another variant of the netboot image for Xen guests.
>> Yes... do all of the cdrom images include the graphical installer?
> Yep (including netboot/xen/mini.iso), with the exception of the the
> tiny cdrom image
> <debian mirror>/dists/<release>/main/installer-<arch>/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
> mentioned above.
>>> - The _hd-media_ image
>> I can hardly see the point of it either, now we've got iso-hybrid.
> Thinking about it more, that boot.img.gz is a (writable) VFAT
> filesystem could be handy, since it means your installation media can
> double as a drive for shuttling ordinary data between machines.
> The sequence of steps required
> 1. Decompress boot.img.gz and write it to a USB stick
> 2. Resize with gparted to fill the drive
> 3. Copy in a mini.iso
> is just two more than ideal. ;-)
>>> 1. A netinst image, which will at least set up a basic
>>> non-graphical Debian system if the installer is not able to
>>> connect to the network. It fits on a Mini CD (at least for
>>> i386) today, and hopefully it will continue to tomorrow.
>> s/netinst/"cdrom"/, but with a caveat that it isn't only for CDs; I'd
>> suggest saying that it fits on "anything more capacious than a
>> businesscard CD". (When would anyone use the even smaller .iso?)
> Based on <http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/>, the netinst size is
> capped on i386 at (and generally near) 180 MB, the size of a typical
> Mini CD (and much larger than many businesscard CDs).
> The businesscard image, which seems less useful now that
> netboot/mini.iso and netboot/gtk/mini.iso exist, was once capped at
> 40 MB (it's closer to 50 MB now) and fits on a businesscard CD.
> netboot/gtk/mini.iso is around 30 MB. netboot/mini.iso is ~20 MB.
> Smaller images can be downloaded and written to media more quickly.
> Users of smaller images can benefit from bugfixes after the media was
> written if the installer components left out are retrieved from an
> up-to-date Debian mirror (though that probably doesn't come up very
>> The MANIFEST implies that the ones for use on USB devices are
>> "hd-media" (also an odd name, which gets Google hits for digital video
>> players) and only the PXE version is "netboot".
> netboot/*.iso can be booted from USB devices, starting with squeeze
> installer beta 1 (30 October 2010).
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