ON all versions of Knoppix I have tried (3.4, 3.6 and the Kanotix variant) the help files for Gimp are not installed. On the Kanotix variant Vim is installed but it was not compiled with the Gvim (GUI) option. Regular Knoppix is OK on Gvim. I will be working on my own distro of Knoppix to rectify these anomalies. -- John Culleton Short list of publishing/marketing books: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf