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Re: [debian-knoppix] English support and development docs



On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 09:21:48PM -0400, Nathaniel Pendleton wrote:
> >> I am yet another American that only speaks English. Sorry.
> >> Is there anyway to get newsletters and the FAQ also translated
> >> into English?
> >
> >Actually, the FAQ also has a nice translation made by the same person
> >who helped me translating my webpage. I'm just too lazy to put it on the
> >CD, or I keep forgetting.
> 
> 
> Can we post the English FAQ knoppix_2.txt under
> the "I have a question about KNOPPIX:..." at
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html

Sure, I can add that to the official archive on the mirrors, as soon as
the next release is due.

> is this Newsletters important? will there be more Newsletters?
> http://mailman.linuxtag.org/pipermail/debian-knoppix/2002-March/000202.html

This is the Developers list, not the Newsletter. The Newsletter is a
private mailinglist of me where I post new features and announcements
about Knoppix every 2 months.

> >> Does anyone have experience on multi language development
> >> discussions, and how to embrace everyone?
> >
> >"knoppix lang=us"
> I did not mean knoppix support for many languages, which is important.
> 
> I meant developer discussions in English and German and whatever.

Ah, Ok, sorry for my misunderstanding. The developers list is
german/english on demand, depending on who's asking. I don't think that
it makes much sense to fork an additional english/russian/spanish list,
or do you believe this is necessary?

> What is the best way to get major points across to the development community
> without phalanxes of human translators. Bablefish for newsgroup threads,
> and human translations for important documents?

I would follow the simple approach: question in english -> answer in
english, question in german -> answer in german. If someone feels
misunderstood or fears to miss anything, he can ask again in english or
german.

> [open rant [ooops, an off topic thread already! so don't take this
> seriously]]
> Irrelevant redherring, but I will answer this anyway.
> Wo shou yi dian dian de Hanyu. Ni shou bu shou Hanyu?
> Wo shi meigoaren. wo shou Ingyu ye Fayu. Wo bu shou Deyu.
> Zia xuixuang, wo xuixi Hanyu.
> Wo yao hunan zhi hen La. Ni yo mei yo Kwayzi?

Oh. Wow. Govorijtje po-russki, poschalsta?

> Ha ha ha or something like that... 3 years of Chinese ending 10 years ago.

I had 3 years of latin and russian in school (skipped french), but think our
russian and ancient-roman friends will still be able to understand either
english or german, so no need for a babelfish translation (which would
probably be even more unreadable than my own russian skills).

> [close rant]

Ok, I think we can stay in english (because it's international) and
german (because most of the developers live here ;-) for a while.

> >Samba, Apache, MySQL work fine. Webmin did not make it on the CD because
> >of space limitations. :-(
> 
> Webmin would be nice... Particularly if the "Nathanix" distros are servers!

I have been thinking about a "Server" and "Desktop" split of Knoppix a
lot. This would free up some space on both versions, but is more
difficult to maintain, because you basically have to keep two different
distros up-to-date. Oliver is working on a self-build system where
random packages can be chosen, maybe his approach is faster than
splitting the current download version.

I would find a "server" version without X but with Webmin very neat,
especially for teaching and on-the-fly installations of servers.

-Klaus
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