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Re: Bug#331391: Re: ftpmaster: Please remove 2.6.8 kernel images



On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 01:32:56PM +0900, Horms wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:20:44PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 08:36:41PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > > tags 331391 moreinfo
> > > thanks
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 05:34:36PM +0900, Horms wrote:
> > > > Hi ftpmasters,
> > > 
> > > Hi Horms,
> > > 
> > > > After discussion with the d-i team, the 2.6.8 kernel
> > > > can now be removed from the archive. Accordinly, please remove
> > > > the following packages:
> > > > 
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-alpha
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-amd64
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-hppa
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-i386
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-ia64
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-m68k
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-s390
> > > > kernel-image-2.6.8-sparc
> > > > kernel-patch-2.6.8-hppa
> > > > kernel-patch-2.6.8-m68k
> > > > kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.8
> > > > kernel-source-2.6.8
> > > > kernel-kbuild-2.6-3
> > > > 
> > > > In addition, the following packages should be removed,
> > > > but they should have been hijacked by linux-2.6, I am not
> > > > sure why this hasn't happened.
> > > > 
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-alpha
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-amd64
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-hppa
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-i386
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-s390
> > > > kernel-latest-2.6-sparc
> > > 
> > > Removing the first list will break the second list, in particular, those
> > > kernel-headers-2.6-subarch packages. So the magical short names for 'latest
> > > kernel headers' will cease to work in unstable then.
> > 
> > Nope, the latest are now provided by the linux-2.6 package as a legacy
> > compatibility thingy and depend on the linux-image 2.6.12 kernels. I think
> > from now on, and with the exception of the mips kernels, all 2.6 kernel
> > related source packages which are not linux-2.6 should go.
> 
> Sven, I don't think this is the case. Examining
> kernel-headers-2.6-686-smp in sid I find that it is a package
> produced by the kernel-latest-2.6-i386 source package. I do not
> see it provided as a virtual or real package by linux-2.6.
> If I understand Jeroen correctly, this needs to be resolved.
> 
> In a nutshell it seems that kernel-image-2.6-<flavour> is
> handled by linux-2.6 but kernel-headers-2.6-<flavour>
> 
> This problem does not seem to exist on powerpc because the header
> packages, (called kernel-build-*) were never released as generic
> 2.6-<flavour> dummy packages. However, adding
> kernel-headers-2.6-<flavour> as part of the transition would do no harm.

Indeed -- I asked about this, because I do not know enough about the usage of
kernel-headers-2.6-<flavour> packages, whether it would make sense to seize to
provide those, and break upgrade path for them. It might be the case that that
would make more sense than to continue their existance -- but it is not
something I can judge, the kernel team can do so much better.
 
(...)
> it seems we need to add a little more package magic first.

So that is up to you -- if the kernel team decides that no upgrade path is
needed on the other hand, that's fine with me too. I merely want it to be
well-thoughtover decision, and not an implicit consequence :).

Thank you all,
--Jeroen

-- 
Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Jeroen@wolffelaar.nl (also for Jabber & MSN; ICQ: 33944357)
http://Jeroen.A-Eskwadraat.nl



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