Re: Who's working to get PA working in KDE/KUbuntu? Where is info about that? ; jor debian-kde
On 2010-06-28, giovanni_re <john_re@fastmail.us> wrote:
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It works in debian. Else you have to be more specific.
/Sune
>
>>From my recent thread,
> Proper PulseAudio installation for KUbuntu 10.4 ; jor KUbuntu
> and
> [pulseaudio-discuss] Proper PulseAudio installation for KUbuntu 10.4 ;
> jor PA
> I read that PA is being worked on for KUbuntu 10.10,
> but not for the long term release 10.4.
>
> [And see other references at end.]
>
> Am I wrong here:
> Isn't it stupid to not get this very useful PA sw into the long term
> release system, 10.4?
>
>==
> Which begs this question:
> What is the proper way for a user to move forward with (K)Ubuntu as a
> function of calendar time & update Ubuntu releases?:
> 1) Upgrade from an LTS to all of the following interim releases, or
> 2) Stick with the LTS?
>
> I've pretty much been doing fresh installs for each new 6 month release,
> except for the KDE 4 debacle, when I might have stuck with KDE3 for a
> while, & stuck with 9.4 & kde4 from ppa, instead of going to 9.10.
>
>==
> Back to my topic:
>
> 1) _Who_ is leading, _&_ also who is working on, the effort to get PA
> into KUbuntu?
>
> BTW, are KUbuntu people working on this issue separate from Debian
> people?
>
> Or, is it a joint effort, & everything PA for KUbuntu will come solely
> from Debian?
>
>
> 1.5) Who is working to get PulseAudio integrated into KDE?
>
> 1.7) PA is in Ubuntu, right? Are the KUbuntu people working with the
> Ubuntu PA developers to get PA in KU?
>
> 1.8) What are the major issues needing to be accomplished to get PA
> into KUbuntu 10.4? 10.10?
>
>
> 2) Where (irc channel, mailing list, web page, wiki page) is the PA
> into KUbuntu / DebianKDE being worked on? Ie, where does one look to
> follow the progress, see projected timelines, see bugs, etc.?
>
>
> Thanks :)
>
>
>===== References:
> 0) URLs:
> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE
> http://colin.guthr.ie/2009/10/so-how-does-the-kde-pulseaudio-support-work-anyway/
> http://colin.guthr.ie/
>
>
>== 1) very informative response on PA list from gmane@colin.guthr.ie
>:
> 'Twas brillig, and giovanni_re at 24/06/10 08:26 did gyre and gimble:
>> > So, what is the proper set of packages to get a proper PA system installed on KUbuntu?
> That's really a question for KUbuntu folks. As upstream, we cannot
> really comment accurately about distros we're not necessarily familiar
> with (which is the case for me with KUbuntu).
>
> Some users may be able to offer practical advice.
>
> If you are part of the KUbuntu project and want to get advice on how
> best to integrate support, then by all means pop on to IRC for a more
> interactive discussion.
>
> But primarily, KUbuntu is just a "KDE Distro" and thus the general
> advice for KDE is what I'd suggest here.
>
> I believe the necessary support in Phonon and KMix is not included in
> the KUbuntu distribution (although, as above, I'm not familiar with it
> so cannot comment fully), but suffice to say, the GUIs and interfaces
> you should expect to see and user are outlined here:
>
> http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/KDE
>
> If you don't see that, go bug your local friendly KUbuntuman and ask
> them to provide repositories where the necessary support is compiled in
> to both packages. It's pretty simple and I can be consulted if there are
> any issues.
>
> HTHs
>
> Col
>
> PS Oh and padevchooser is not really replaced by anything per-se. It
> works in a strange/outdated way that generally breaks several things. We
> generally recommend using pavucontrol instead. paman is really only a
> debug tool which can be better done via the command line now for handy
> copy+paste diagnosis and pavumeter has been rolled into pavucontrol too.
>
>
> PS2: Although there have been no releases for 6 months, there have been
> several stability/bug fixes since with we push to the stable-queue
> branches which distros pull from when creating their packages. There are
> a lot of new changes in our master branch and there will be a release
> within the next six months or so, but no solid time frames as of yet.
>
>
>== 2) From captain_bodge@yahoo.co.uk on the KUbuntu list:
>> 2) Here is the suggested set of sw you should install.
> In any up to date distro where it is supported (eg Ubuntu 10.04), it
> will be preinstalled and preconfigured, as it's pretty much a
> requirement for Gnome these days. Under KDE there is a feeling that it's
> not required as KDE has Phonon. In my view (and it seems only the
> Kubuntu devs disagree with me on this) this is a mistake, as Phonon does
> not provide half the functionality of pulseaudio.
>
> A lot of work went into KDE over the last 6 months to make it
> pulseaudio-friendly. However these changes arrived slightly too late for
> the 10.04 Kubuntu release and there were build issues and packaging
> problems that would have been too risky to address at the late stage
> when the problem was identified. Not to mention the fact there appear to
> be two versions of Phonon upstream. I raised the bug, but I didn't spot
> it until the 10.04 RC.
>
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