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Re: usb storage problems



I'm sorry for the length of this thread. Maybe it is of use to somebody, 
however.

Am Montag, 19. September 2005 17.00 schrieb Derek Broughton:
...
> > In order to install hal or udev I would need to uninstall
> base-config??
> > and about ten other important-sounding packages...
>
> Maybe give us the actual output from apt?

Here it is. Note --simulate

root@tbox:/home/theo# apt-get --simulate install udev
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  e2fslibs e2fsprogs initscripts libc6 libc6-dev libselinux1 locales
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
  e2fsck-static
Die folgenden Pakete werden ENTFERNT:
  base-config console-common console-data console-tools euro-support-console
  modutils nfs-common nfs-kernel-server sysvinit
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  initscripts libselinux1 udev
Die folgenden Pakete werden aktualisiert:
  e2fslibs e2fsprogs libc6 libc6-dev locales
WARNUNG: Die folgenden essentiellen Pakete werden entfernt.
Die sollte NICHT geschehen, wenn Sie nicht genau wissen, was Sie tun!
  sysvinit
5 aktualisiert, 3 neu installiert, 9 zu entfernen und 650 nicht aktualisiert.
Remv base-config (2.71 Debian:testing)
Remv euro-support-console (1.33 Debian:testing)
Remv console-data (2002.12.04dbs-49 Debian:testing) [console-common ]
Remv console-common (0.7.53 Debian:testing) [console-tools ]
Remv console-tools (1:0.2.3dbs-56 Debian:testing)
Remv modutils (2.4.26-1.2 Debian:testing)
Remv nfs-kernel-server (1:1.0.7-3 Debian:testing)
Remv nfs-common (1:1.0.7-3 Debian:testing)
Remv sysvinit (2:2.84-163 )
Inst libc6-dev [2.3.2.ds1-22] (2.3.5-6 Debian:testing) []
Inst locales [2.3.2.ds1-22] (2.3.5-6 Debian:testing) []
E: Dieser Installationslauf erfordert, dass vorübergehend das essentielle 
Paket e2fsprogs aufgrund einer Konflikt-/Vor-Abhängigkeits-Schleife entfernt 
wird. Das ist oft schlimm, aber wenn Sie es wirklich tun wollen, aktivieren 
Sie bittedie Option APT::Force-LoopBreak.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs

Sorry, it's in (misspellt!) German, but there are two severe warnings, one 
error (although I expect that comes from the --simulate option), and a 
cryptic instruction: heavy stuff! 

...
> So, you have a device on the desktop that is unmounted?  Click on the
> device, it mounts, right-click and select "unmount" to unmount it.  If
> that's not working, what _is_ happening?

The icon appears on the desktop already mounted after executing pmount. The 
right-click method returns an error window (kio_devices_mounthelper) with:
"umount: fstab enthält /media/sdc1 nicht (Nur root kann es aushängen)
Please check that the disk is entered correctly."

It would of course be slick if KDE could be taught to use pumount instead of 
umount.

...
> > Incidently, cat /proc/partitions won't show the SD card *until it has
> > already been pmounted*. It is thus not useful to determine unknown
> > partitions.
>
> I think that's a hotplug or udev issue.  I think we really need to get udev
> fixed.  Have you done an "apt-get update" recently?

Yes, for "testing". But I do have 650 packages a couple of months old. I 
update some of them from time to time, steering clear of anything with "k" in 
it, as I do not want the very severe problems I had twice already or which 
appear often on this list. Also the above installation for udev sounds seems 
terribly risky to me. I don't mind adding or updating things, but removing 
them is usually bad news. There should be an "undo" button in synaptic! But 
I'm happy with the situation now, will enjoy hal and udev in a year or so, I 
expect, and thank you very much indeed for your help and patience!

Theo





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