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Re: Memory Usage - KDE - Where is discussion on this?



Geez.. I could live with that.. Wonder how you got yours so low. Wondering if 
this is again related to the fonts.. Next install I will have to check it as 
I add each package.. :)

But having said that about MG being used on initial startup, it doesn't do bad 
when adding apps to the load, except that kmail uses a lot if you render html 
emails, and the konqueror issue.  Right now, with konqueror freshly fired up, 
and kmail running, with two shells..  A Typical load for an end user, and i 
get the following..

             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:        127172     123024       4148     186556       2708      29472
-/+ buffers/cache:      90844      36328
Swap:       128516       2344     126172

NOTE: I tend to look at the 'used' column, as that would have tagged Swap if 
over pysical size, even though only 90 MG is currently used

But give it a full day of work, and the leaks get me into swap on this machine 
and that's when I grumble :)  But the point someone made about the 
comparision with Win95 remains valid..  Webbrowser, Email Client, (except 
maybe outlook :) running on a freshly booted machine can run on less hardware 
than the current KDE, albeit all the added advantages that the current KDE 
might have, at the end user level, there would definetly be a comparison 
made, and I would hate for the word 'bloated' to ever get associated to Linux 
in the press :)  Of course, now comparing to an XP requirements might be more 
fair.  But getting slightly off-topic..

Debian/KDE is strictly releated to Debian, and I guess this is more a general 
concern, to any Linux/X/KDE installation, but of course it may affect future 
decision makers, so I guess worth bringing up once in a while.

<General Message Bloat>
Most of the products we (my company) deal with tend to be server products, 
rather than desktops, so they tend to have enough RAM that they can afford to 
throw away an extra 64 MG for desktops tools, if it makes it easier to use.  
And by the time this comes of a concern, desktop users may be all sitting 
with 4-8GIG of ram to spend, and if the developers can get out twice as many 
features/programs/tools at the expense of a little 'bloat' I for one am not 
going to shout too loud about the 'M evils' involved. Linux is growing up, 
and academic concerns vs marketing and other concerns might occasionally need 
to be sacrificed.  But I can still dream can't I .. 
<End Bloat, taking off list>

On Saturday 15 February 2003 10:34, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On my laptop KDE 3.1 when started (even with ksysguard applet on kicker)
> it only takes 43060K (see second line on free).  That said I do think
> there was or possibly still is some kind of memory leak but I don't know
> where.
>
>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
> Mem:        240196     109972     130224          0       5416      61496
> -/+ buffers/cache:      43060     197136
> Swap:       530104          0     530104
>
>
> Chris

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