On Tue, 11/05/2024 03:34:25 AM, Tassia Camoes Araujo wrote: > On 2024-11-03 14:16, Stefan Kropp wrote: > > > > \o/ perfekt. Currently, there are two different "projects" to > > build a Debian Junior Live image. > > > Thanks for the explanation. > > > I started with a small project using live-build. This project > > will be marked as deprecated soon. > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian-jr-team/debian-junior-live-system > > > That is what I tried first, as I didn't know it was deprecated. If any > feedback is still useful for that one, it would be good to have a system > in English by default ;-) Ah, I see. Maybe it's German :-D https://salsa.debian.org/debian-jr-team/debian-junior-live-system/-/blob/master/auto/config?ref_type=heads#L15 > > The "new / real" way to build a Debian Live Image is different. > > > > I have created a new package called junior-desktop which is part > > of Debian Junior's Pure Blend. This package is the "Debian Junior > > Desktop". > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/junior-desktop > > > I've installed this package on a clean trixie environment. But the > experience was not the same, as I ended up with a "full-featured" IceWM > menu, not the targeted environment I got with the live image. I guess it > is still a work-in-progress and the customization done for the live > image cannot be directly used in this new method? In the "deprecated" way of building the image all the magic happens there: https://salsa.debian.org/debian-jr-team/debian-junior-live-system/-/blob/master/config/includes.chroot_after_packages/home/user/.bash_login?ref_type=heads https://salsa.debian.org/debian-jr-team/debian-junior-live-system/-/tree/master/config/includes.chroot_after_packages/usr/share/debian-junior?ref_type=heads This is still missing in the "new" build. I was thinking about a junior-config and maybe a junior-tweak package. Maybe we can build something, which can be used by other blend projects as well. Debian Blends supports some kind of user roles https://blends.debian.org/blends/ch06.html#userroles I don't know much about it. Yes, it's something on our ToDo-List. > I have limited understanding of how things work under the hoods... sorry > if question is too naif. Same here. I think we will find out how things are working. ;-) > > This package has been included into the live-tasks package. Which > > is used to Build Debian's live images: > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/live-task-debian-junior > > > > This is one important thing for me: Debian Junior is and will be > > Debian. Everything should be included into a Debian Packages and > > shall follow Debian's processes. > > > That's great! > > > Welcome on board! > > > Thank you! > > >> By the way, is the live image available anywhere for download? > > > > Not yet, I hope soon. > > > Well, maybe for now we could simply put the .iso file in one of the > Debian machines for download and add the link to the wiki? Let's wait until Monday. Steve did a small change, There is also an issue with some firmware, AFAIK: https://salsa.debian.org/images-team/live-setup/-/commit/c11e91b I hope we will have an image next Monday. > > I agree. Few weeks back, I asked to get Debian Junior into > > Debian's live image build. Roland helped to get the build done > > and I was able to build and test the image. > > > > Now, it would be nice to get Debian Junior into the weekly build. > > See mails ;-) > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2024/11/msg00002.html > > > > I think this will be a very important milestone for the project, > > because it will get more visibility. > > > For sure it will! That's all great news! > > > When the weekly build is done, I think I need to work on Debian > > Junior specific configuration files. Starting with configuration > > for IceWM, Debian Junior's Window Manager. > > > Would you be open to brainstorm ideas for the environment configuration? Sure. On the following picture you can see an idea about colored bullets. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJr?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=DebianJr-Live-CD-001.png I think it's nice to group the applications by colors, maybe for different ages. Maybe we can open a new mail-thread for this discussions and but the ideas on the wiki page. > I feel there will be so many decisions to be made, and the more we > involve the community in this process, the better. > > How about setting up a jitsi call in a few weeks and get participants to > test an image beforehand and come with feedback? Calls are always little bit difficult for me. Let' see, maybe we can try. Anyway, in general, I prefer E-Mail, because everybody can follow the communication. Later, summarize all important information on the wiki page. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJr I tied.to put some notes / status on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJr/ProjectStagePlan When the Image Build has been done, I will update the wiki page. > Cheers, > > Tassia. -- Stefan https://wiki.debian.org/StefanKropp Instant Messaging via XMPP OpenPGP: 65F91599B305749D03DD 88A4CBD1B596579B7FFF Diese E-Mail wurde von einem Debian GNU/Linux System gesendet
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