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Installing on the donated system: size of Debian Jr.



Here's a first brief report on installing Debian Jr. on the donated
laptop.  My focus for this report is the size of Debian Jr.

We start with a base install of woody, weighing in at 90M.

The Debian Jr. task installs all of this stuff:

ii  junior-arcade       1.5                 Debian Jr. arcade games
ii  junior-art          1.2                 Debian Jr. Art
ii  junior-doc          1.5                 Debian Jr. Documentation
ii  junior-games-card   1.3                 Debian Jr. Card Games
ii  junior-games-gl     1.3                 Debian Jr. 3D Games (hardware acceleration required)
ii  junior-games-net    1.1                 Debian Jr. Network Games
ii  junior-games-sim    1.1                 Debian Jr. Simulation Games
ii  junior-games-text   1.1                 Debian Jr. Text Games
un  junior-gnome        <none>              (no description available)
un  junior-internet     <none>              (no description available)
un  junior-kde          <none>              (no description available)
ii  junior-math         1.2                 Debian Jr. educational math
ii  junior-puzzle       1.1                 Debian Jr. Puzzles
ii  junior-sound        1.1                 Debian Jr. sound
ii  junior-system       1.1                 Debian Jr. System tools
ii  junior-toys         1.3                 Debian Jr. desktop toys
ii  junior-typing       1.1                 Debian Jr. typing
ii  junior-writing      1.3                 Debian Jr. writing

I found that this amounts to 311M.  On top of that, you need to add the
'X Window System' task and a window manager.  After I had installed a
few more packages that I always use on my systems at home (e.g. less,
ssh) I end up with approx 500M used.  Add another 30M if you want
junior-internet, another 12.5M if you want junior-gnome, and another
43M if you want junior-kde, bringing the total up to approximately
600M.

To that, you need to add a small amount of space for home directories,
and the like, so I would say that we are looking at around 700M as the
minimum hdd size for Debian Jr. with 1G being preferred.

Of course, if you have a smaller system than this, you can get away
with far less by picking and choosing a subset of junior- meta packages
to install and then just adding to that one or two hand-picked apps
from the others.  For instance, junior-games-gl and junior-sound are
both large and useless on this system (no hardware acceleration
for GL, and no sound card).

I'm not concerned about how large the Debian Jr. task is.  I feel it
is quite reasonable.  These days, disk space is pretty cheap.  However,
it is perhaps worth noting in the quickstart docs what to expect, as
there may be users attempting to install this on old castoff hardware
like I have, and for them, I would recommend leaving off some of the
weightier junior- meta packages.  I will try to guage how large
junior-games-gl is and mention that as an example.

Ben
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