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Re: JDK 10 Early Access b33 and JDK 8u162 Early Access b03 are available on jdk.java.net

I think that as soon as someone objects to having mail sent to a public list, the sending should end.

I'd agree with Matthias that the binaries of some builds are not by themselves newsworthy for the debian-java mailing list specifically, since Debian doesn't use third party binaries in its Java packaging.

I'd also agree with Emmanuel that it can be useful for packagers to be aware of upcoming changes in the JDK sooner, so that they can provide feedback and make adjustments as necessary. For example, the javah tool is considered for removal in JDK 10 [0], which may or may not impact some packages in Debian. For the corresponding thread on the Apache Ant mailing list, please see http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ant-dev/201711.mbox/browser .

So in light of Matthias' well-founded objection, I'm wondering if these kind of emails wouldn't be more useful to the Debian Java community if they, in addition to pointers to binaries, also included instructions on checking out the tagged sources for OpenJDK for the specific builds, so that feedback by so inclined Debian developers could also be provided on whether the upstream source code builds at all on Debian GNU/Linux (which may be well ahead of the Oracle developers in terms of the native GCC toolchains used, for example).

Matthias, would that be more useful and acceptable?

If not, then I'd suggest stopping further early access announcements mails to this mailing list, Rory, and sending them to Emmanuel directly instead, while anyone else interested in them could also subscribe to the quality-discuss@openjdk.java.net mailing list and receive, comment and discuss them that way.

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