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Bug#365408: [POLICY-PROPOSAL] Drop java*-runtime/compiler, create classpath-jre/jdk and java-jre/jdk



> >  2) I don't see the trademark problem. There are already virtual
> >     packages that use the word java. What would be the difference
> >     between continuing the same trend?
> 
> There is a trademark problem. The java1|2 virtual packages were targeted
> to Sun's, IBM's and Blackdown JVM version 1.1.x and 1.2. By extension,
> we have use the virtual packages with java1 for free runtimes and java2
> for non-free runtimes. But I'm pretty sure there is a legal problem here.

The fact is that java1 has been used by free runtimes, so I don't see
any reason why something with the word java would be any different now.
If there is a legal problem, it should be specifically identified.

> >>Maybe you have another proposal (I mean a legal one ;-))
> > 
> > As far as I can tell, the only real issue is #1 above. If that is the
> > case then I propose:
> > 
> >     java-jre
> >     java-jdk
> 
> This is not a problem if you refer to a Sun trademarked Java product
> (and affiliated vendors like IBM, Blackdown etc)
> 
> >     java-jre-nonfree
> >     java-jdk-nonfree
> 
> So you think Sun will be OK with that? I'm not sure.
> 
> > The first two would be used by all implementations, whether free of
> > non-free. The last two would be reserved for non-free implementations.
> 
> That's what we want but with classpath-* for free java and java-* for
> non-free implementations.

But I strongly disagree with using classpath-* for free versions, and
saving java for non-free implementations. That encourages the use of the
non-free implementations.

How about java-* for both free and non-free, and then if some package
explicitely requires non-free they can depend on sun-java5-jre.

Charles

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