Re: GCJ Native Proposal
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Jerry Haltom wrote:
[...]
| The main
| motivation for this is speed. There is no JIT overhead involved and it
| runs native, not interpreted. It is worth noting that the Kaffe folks
| want to integrate support for this binary interface into Kaffe.
It must be underscored that this is a _potential_ speed gain. We
actually are not certain what speed gains, if any, we will have.
If we are honest with ourselves, a second and quite powerful motive is
our desire to get Eclipse into main, and that really only serves a
handful of the Debian community at large. All of the Debian policy and
developer docs encourage us to not just think about our packages, but
about the whole project. Is this really something that reflects good
stewardship on our part? I think we have to think that one over.
[...]
| This begs the question then: How do we make these native .so files
| available in our packages to our users. A number of ideas were
| considered:
|
| a) Include the .so along with the .jar in the same deb.
| b) Create a separate package for the .so.
|
| The first one (a) can be discounted because it would convert every Java
| package into a binary: arch package. This isn't feasible for obvious
| reasons: we like archive space!
[...]
Approach b) is the only one that seems feasible, and I would only
recommend doing it on a few packages experimentally to see if the
hoped-for speed gains merit the considerable increase in resource
impact. A third option I would also posit is:
c) Take a deep, hard look at what is broken with JIT in the free
runtimes right now and how we could significantly contribute to that
part of free java that really needs help.
Iterpreted languages hardly need me to back them up, but I think they
have a proven track record. Taking one of the leading interpreted
languages and choosing to make its use of native compiled binaries as a
de facto for our distro just doesn't sit well with me.
Regards,
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Barry Hawkins
All Things Computed
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Registered Linux User #368650
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