Ean, please orphan Kaffe!, was Re: Co-maintaining Kaffe
Ean Schuessler wrote:
The last significant change to Kaffe from a *packaging* perspective was
migrating it to DBS and that was my work. Your recent NMUs (which have been
The most significant work on the Kaffe package in the last 12 months was
the move to 1.1. Arnaud has created test packages [1],[2] and verified
which bugs were fixed in this new upstream release. I had to announce my
intention to NMU Kaffe [3] just to make you work on your package again.
Migrating Kaffe to DBS might have produced the largest differences
between two package versions but it was far from being the most
significant work. BTW, CDBS would have been a better choice anyway...
insanely numerous) disabled DBS by simply renaming the patches directory to
"no-patches". That isn't adding value and was done without a byte of email
consulting me.
He had good reasons to do this. Some of the patches have been applied
upstream (checks done by Arnaud!), some are not needed (tests also done
by Arnaud and others, but not you according to the BTS logs). You simply
uploaded Kaffe 1.1.1-1 based on his work and asked others to test the
resulting package [4]. Maybe you should read the Kaffe mailing list,
e.g. [5]?
Without sarcasm I will tell you again that I appreciate your enthusiasm and
want to work with you. Simply be aware that I will not be ignored and will
not tolerate haphazard changes that are not cleared with me first. There is
nothing unreasonable about that attitude and nothing that is out of line with
policy.
This is not acceptable for me to base more of my Java packages on Kaffe.
I don't see a reason why you should have the final word and let others
do most of the work. All maintainers are equal in the pkg-java project
and you should do the same for Kaffe.
For the time being I will leave you as an Uploader on the condition that you
communicate your intended changes with me first and only upload when I am
grossly unresponsive (ie. more than a week). My preference is to receive
changes in the form of a DBS patch.
So you are expecting to be unresponsive? Do you plan to spend more time
on Kaffe? This procedure will just cause more overhead for no benefit.
I'm not the only one who has asked you in public or private to orphan
Kaffe in the past months. I repeat my request here and ask to to act in
the interests of Debian instead of trying to keep power on a package
that you are not even interested in [6]. The only thing that you have
achieved is that Arnaud got frustrated and might have lost interest in
co-maintaing Kaffe.
Stefan
[1]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200308/msg00014.html
[2]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200308/msg00046.html
[3]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200308/msg00143.html
[4]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2003/debian-java-200308/msg00173.html
[5]
http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2003-August/043672.html
[6]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2004/debian-java-200401/msg00086.html
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