Re: Japanese input in an English environment
Thank you, Francis and everyone else who has contributed to this
thread.
I have managed to be able to read and input Japanese in Mutt and
Vim (which is just about all the Japanese I use these days). I can
read Japanese web pages and also use kdrill and xyaku with edict, so
I am quite happy with that. However, my way of doing it seems a bit
messy! Please take a look and see if you can suggest something
better. I'd like to be able to do everything at a user level and
not alter system files like Xsession. In SuSE, I had a .xinitrc
file which sourced a .xim file, neither of which come with Debian by
default and are both ignored if I add them. I've tried thinking of
ways to source them but failed miserably
Also, I don't think the .bash_profile entry is necessary.
Here's what I have had to add to get it:
#.Xresources
!!! Kinput2
*inputMethod: kinput2
Kinput2*CcCannaserver.cdef: cdef.kinput2-canna
!!!
*kterm*openIm: on
*kterm*ScrollBar: true
#/etc/X11/Xsession
# execute kinpu2-canna
LANG=ja_JP.EUC-JP LC_ALL=ja_JP.EUC-JP kinput2-canna -xim -kinput
-canna &
#.bashrc
LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.EUC-JP
export LC_CTYPE
#.bash_profile (maybe not necessary!?)
## use kinput2 to enter Japanese
export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2-canna"
Thanks again.
joss
On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 04:08:29PM +0900, bond@cslab.kecl.ntt.co.jp wrote:
>
> G'day,
>
>
> > > Are there any documents which describe how to set this
> > > up? I have tried using my config files from SuSE but they do not
> > > work.
> >
> > Please install language-env package and read documents in
> > /usr/share/doc/language-env directory. Please note that,
> > though there are an English document for Japanese environment,
> > the document assumes the users to invoke set-language-env
> > which displays messages only in Japanese. If you feel uneasy,
> > please adduser a user to test set-language-env. (The effect
> > of set-language-env command is limited to the home directory
> > of the user.)
>
> You should be able to just set the LC_CTYPE to Japanese in your
> bashrc, and most things will work. Note that you must have generated
> the correct locale using locale.gen. I use ja_JP.EUC-JP, which is
> fairly standard.
>
> With this, and the correct set up for XWindows and kinput2 I can enter
> Japanese in Mozilla, Galeon, gjiten, kterm, ebview, ... I will append
> the relevant bits of my .bashrc, .bash_profile and .Xresources. Note
> also that if you are starting something from a launcher then you may
> have to set the environment in the launcher as well: for example I
> start the dictionary viewer ebview with:
>
> 'env LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.EUC-JP /usr/bin/ebview'
>
> I leave everything else as just 'C', which means that all my messages
> and so forth are in English.
>
> > Please note that Japanese-inputing servers for X Window System
> > requires that they are invoked in Japanese locale. I think
> > this is not a requirement from XIM (X Input Method) protocol,
> > but all implimentations of Japanese XIM servers requires, as
> > far as I know. Thus, if your words in the subject "English
> > environment" means English locale, you might have troubles
> > inputting Japanese.
> >
> > There is one Japanese-inputtable software regardless of locale:
> > emacs and xemacs(-mule).
>
> emacs is you friend!
>
>
> -.Xresources------------------------------------------------------------
> !!! Kinput2
> *inputMethod: kinput2
> Kinput2*CcWnn.cdef: cdef.kinput2.egg
> !!!
> *kterm*openIm: on
> *kterm*ScrollBar: true
>
> -.bashrc----------------------------------------------------------------
> # make it possible to cut and past Japanese
> LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.EUC-JP
> export LC_CTYPE
>
> -.bash_profile-----------------------------------------------------------
> # use kinput2 to enter Japanese
> export XMODIFIERS="@im=kinput2"
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I would recommend at least the following packages, although there are
> many others I have neglected to mention:
>
> #Japanese input
> egg, kinput2-wnn, freewnn-jserver
> #Dicitonaries (gjiten comes from its own site)
> gjiten, edict, kanjidic, xjdic
> # fonts
> defoma
> # japanese and cjk latex
> cjk-latex, dvipsk-ja, xdvik-ja, jtex-bin, dvips-fontdata-n2bk,
> dvi2ps-fontdata-ja, gs-cjk-resource, + various postscript fonts
>
>
>
>
> I hope this helped.
> --
> Francis Bond <www.kecl.ntt.co.jp/icl/mtg/members/bond/>
> NTT Communication Science Laboratories | Machine Translation Research Group
>
>
>
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