On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 03:01:30AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > >So, you would rather that things stay the same rather than improve (and > >potentially break)? There is an operating system targeted at just that > >crowd. It is called MS Windows. You are more than welcome to go use > >it. > > An improvement by who's standards? The devs or the users? > > Craig's comments about breaking user's local stuff on the whims of the > devs, pretty much covers the rest of my thoughts on the topic. > > Someone pointed out that Debian has release cycles. Yep, I've known > that since 1995 or so, thanks. It's why I use Debian, and another "duh" > moment... > > But I've seen the devs get themselves all wound up in a tizzy over silly > crap like this before, make changes, break things for end-users without > need, and then wonder why users think Debian with it's "uber-great > goals" is just as insane as say, the RedHat/Fedora/RHEL fiasco. > > We should strive for that lovely and much lauded goal... "The principal > of least surprise." > > Some users have now used, and expect bash as the default shell on their > Debian systems, for longer than some of the devs have been old enough to > code, now. > > Folks that KNOW why they need/want ash, dash, Bob's Big Boy Shell, or > even... shudder... tcsh... know how to change it, easily. > > Leave the average Joe alone, leave his defaults alone. Be sane. > Please see my reply to Craig's message. Compilers fall into exactly the same boat. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com
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