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Re: Password file with over 3000 users.

On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 03:01:30AM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
> Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> >So, you would rather that things stay the same rather than improve (and
> >potentially break)?  There is an operating system targeted at just that
> >crowd.  It is called MS Windows.  You are more than welcome to go use
> >it.
> An improvement by who's standards?  The devs or the users?
> Craig's comments about breaking user's local stuff on the whims of the 
> devs, pretty much covers the rest of my thoughts on the topic.
> Someone pointed out that Debian has release cycles.  Yep, I've known 
> that since 1995 or so, thanks.  It's why I use Debian, and another "duh" 
> moment...
> But I've seen the devs get themselves all wound up in a tizzy over silly 
> crap like this before, make changes, break things for end-users without 
> need, and then wonder why users think Debian with it's "uber-great 
> goals" is just as insane as say, the RedHat/Fedora/RHEL fiasco.
> We should strive for that lovely and much lauded goal... "The principal 
> of least surprise."
> Some users have now used, and expect bash as the default shell on their 
> Debian systems, for longer than some of the devs have been old enough to 
> code, now.
> Folks that KNOW why they need/want ash, dash, Bob's Big Boy Shell, or 
> even... shudder... tcsh... know how to change it, easily.
> Leave the average Joe alone, leave his defaults alone.  Be sane.
Please see my reply to Craig's message.  Compilers fall into exactly the
same boat.



Roberto C. Sánchez

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