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RE: NEVER USE SORBS




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pigeon [mailto:jah.pigeon@ukonline.co.uk]
> Sent: 27 July 2006 20:55
> To: debian-isp@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: NEVER USE SORBS
> 
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 09:42:46PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote:
> > --On July 26, 2006 5:17:28 PM -0700 Paul Johnson <baloo@ursine.ca>
> wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 26 July 2006 08:00, Juha-Matti Tapio wrote:
> > > > There have been at least these incorrect claims:
> > > >
> > > > a) Sorbs blocks email (except mail sent to them maybe).
> > > > b) Sorbs claims someone is a spammer by listing in DUHL.
> <snip some more>
> > >
> > > Which ones are incorrect again?  I don't see any false statements so
> far.
> >
> > I realize the list above is a list of what has been incorrectly claimed,
> > below is atleast some of the reasons why.
> >
> > a) sorbs publishes a phone book of sorts.  using it, or not, is not up
> to
> > sorbs.  they let anyone use it, or read it.
> 
> The UK government maintains a register of sex offenders which is used
> by employers to screen applicants for sensitive jobs. If someone is
> incorrectly entered on this register they are likely to find
> themselves refused employment. Such recourse as they have is not
> against the employers refusing them but against the maintainers of the
> register. Though the employer has done the actual refusing, it is the
> register which is at fault, as the register entry is the root cause of
> the refusal. Similarly if someone's email is blocked because the
> receiving server uses SORBS, it is the SORBS entry which is the root
> cause of the blocking. To deny that SORBS blocks email is to consider
> only the software aspect of the system. From the wider view of humans
> attempting to communicate - which after all is what email is for - it
> is certainly true that SORBS blocks email.
> 

I think you will also find in the UK that the list is liable because it
incorrectly refused somebody a job. That is against the law in the UK.
Its probably nothing todo with the list.





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