Re: OT: sorbs blacklisting scam
Matthew Sullivan wrote:
PS: firstname.lastname@example.org is open subscription un-censored and the
correct place to hold discussions about SORBS listings and policies...
and oddly enough you'll find a lot of the SORBS users there (certainly
more than on this list).
Is it the only correct place? No, and don't deny the people that
have signed up for a debian list (focused on isp's) the joy of a
discussion and a good flame war. It could have done without the
personal stuff.. but ey, we're all human.
With all the hubbub about SORBS having the right to do "this" or
not, I never known about a couple of things.. regarding SORBS. This
discussion wasn't useless at all.
It has left me with one or two questions unawanserd though.
The one thing that pissed off a lot of people (and suprised me
because I have never had a listing at SORBS before, so I couldn't
have known) is the part about a the so to call "delisting fine". Why
are we forced to trust (SORBS) a organisation in donating funds to a
good case that we are forced to provide to get delisted? SORBS has a
financial funnel to a random charity? How does this work?
This delisting fee is not optional, but there is no external
organisation that has any way of doing a check in how the SORBS
organisation is setup, and financially is beeing maintained. This is
a guess, and that's because of the lack of easy accessable
information about this fee.. which brings me to the following:
It realy amazes me, the lack of immediate information about this
"feature". SORBS, independent and all, but no clear overview in how
this works.. a lack of advertisment?