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Re: Translation status robot not working?



Hi Camaleón,

Camaleón <noelamac@gmail.com> wrote (Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:54:13 +0200):
> There is something definilety broken in the stats page, also for Spanish 
> (ES) language:
> 
> BAD / NOT SYNCED
> https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po-debconf/es
> 
> GOOD / SYNCED
> https://l10n.debian.org/coordination/spanish/es.by_translator.html#Camale%C3%B3n

Why do you think, that status page for Spanish is broken?
I guess it is, because you do not see your bugreport for systemd-boot-installer
there, right?
In that case I can say, that this is not a problem with the status page!

systemd-boot-installer is a package belonging to the debian-installer
(https://packages.debian.org/sid/systemd-boot-installer), so it's a udeb
package, not a normal debian package. And these udeb packages are treated
differently when it comes to translations:
the debian-installer has its own infrastructure to deal with translations,
and therefore translators should NOT work on the udeb packages directly
(like you did with your report 
"#1074292 [INTL:es] Spanish translation of systemd-boot-installer debconf template"
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1074292 ).

To prevent translators to work on those packages directly, I have implemented
a mechanism some time ago, to exclude udeb packages from the above status pages.
Therefore you do not see your report there.
(Yes, I know you found that package there one day, and because of this you
worked on it, but that was simply, because I missed to add the new
package to the 'IGNMATERIAL' variable in time; which I then did some days later:
https://salsa.debian.org/l10n-team/dl10n/-/commit/bdd61bb4cf8fc56ed16aea22f7345c628b76547a

So, systemd-boot-installer appeared on the status pages, and then
disappeared again.
I know this is not optimal, and it's all fairly complicated in the end :-(

> It's quite frustrating (that is, «dis-cou-ra-ging») for translators not 
> getting accurate information on their job and, at least to me, these 
> kind of «madness things» makes me doing lots of duplicated work and tons
> of errors.

Hmm, reading this makes me think, that the systemd-boot-installer issue 
is not your only problem with the status pages?

> If it were not because I DO (REALLY REALLY... I mean, «really») LOVE 
> Debian's way of life, and all what it represents (software, people and 
> philosophy) I would have quitted from helping with translations time 
> ago >:-P

Thanks for your time anyway!
I know Debian has its issues, and that often annoys people.
In the end, it always boils down to lack of people and lack of time...


Holger


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