"Alfred M. Szmidt" <ams@kemisten.nu> writes: > While I agree with most of what you wrote, I don't think "progress" > can be made within Debian, but what will happen is that things won't > go broken. And that is a good thing. How about attracting new developers, porting packages, having something useful to work with for Hurd developers, etc? for me that seems like progress, although not all of it is the kind of progress you would like to see. -- Marco