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Re: hppa packages missing?



On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 5:28 PM, John David Anglin <dave.anglin@bell.net> wrote:
> On 16-Dec-11, at 8:34 AM, John David Anglin wrote:
>
>> On 15-Dec-11, at 8:06 PM, Grant Grundler wrote:
>>
>>> The main problem was dselect wanted to remove locales among many
>>> packages because glibc and other dependencies couldn't resolve. So I
>>> aborted the update. Has anyone updated an hppa machine using the
>>> debian ports uploaded packages succesfully?
>>
>>
>> I have unstable/multiarch running on my rp3440.  It's not completely
>> current
>> but close.  I build everything from source.
>

Hi Dave!

First, thanks for the initial and followup commentary - it basically
matches my perception.

> I was trying to say in a round about manner that debian ports can't be used
> to update parisc systems running "squeeze" or unstable any longer  because of
> the problem noted. It's probably still ok for systems running lenny.

Ok.

> It does provide the last binary packages for hppa unstable but new packages
> like locales which target all systems sometimes have nasty dependencies
> which can lead to many packages being removed.  The package dependencies don't
> handle systems that are far from being up-to-date.

Which is exactly what happened to me.

> I no longer use apt-get upgrade other than to find what needs upgrading.  I
> selectively use dpkg -i and apt-get install to install packages.
>
> Mostly, I build from source.  This is a major effort.  I have been at it
> since last August.

When I read this, my first thought was: "Just run Gentoo - it does
that automatically." :/

Maybe not funny to everyone. Especially since I don't see a gentoo
install ISO or something similar.

>  That's why a .deb collection is important.
>
> I would say based on my experience that Debian package maintainers are still
> willing to respond to parisc related bugs.  Most packages don't have parisc
> specific
> problems, so the situation isn't completely unrecoverable, but we need an
> unstable
> buildd that is monitored by the small core of toolchain and kernel
> maintainers.

Agreed. IIRC, dannf volunteered to operate/maintain a buildd but was
waiting for "stable kernel" to be released and I don't if that
happened. My understand was recent kernel.org was more stable. Let's
see dannf is still available/interested in operating a buildd get an
update on what he thinks he needs to move forward.

cheers,
grant


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