As PeteM and others have discovered, upgrading your hppa box currently breaks a *lot*. We are recommending that you DO NOT APT-GET UPGRADE until we find the problem and get it fixed. Someone will send an all-clear once it's safe to do so. We think the latest hppa libc in Debian (2.2.4-3) is to blame but we don't know for sure yet. Stay tuned.... -- Matt Taggart Linux Development Lab taggart@fc.hp.com HP Linux Systems Operation