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Re: Hackage revisions and the current breakage of https://jenkins.debian.net/view/haskell/job/haskell-package-plan/



On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 08:31AM, Mikolaj Konarski wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 08:12PM, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > Note that I intentionally did not make it completely ignore revisions.
> > Consider this situation:
> >
> >  * Debian has text-1.0 and foo-1.0
> >  * foo-1.0r0 depends on text < 1.1
> >  * Later someone added a revision to foo, and
> >    foo-1.0r1 depends on text < 1.2
> >  * I plan to upgrade text to 1.1, so I bump it in the package plan. I
> >    do this to find out what packages this will break.
> >
> > Under the current scheme, test-packages will not complain, because foo
> > is compatible with 1.1. I go ahead and upgrade text.

The above will break as soon as you upload text-1.1 on Debian, since the
uploaded foo-1.0 depends on 'text < 1.1', right?

> > If we change that, it would say that I cannot upgrade text yet because
> > it believes some reverse dependencies are not compatible with the new
> > version yet.

So my question is, do you think it will be useful to encounter that
breakage early on (while updating package-plan), or do you feel it will
introduce unnecessary complexity?

> Oh, that's shrewd, but my gut-feeling would be to simplify it
> and make it less fragile by deciding to
> * either completely ignore revisions and apply them
> as explicit patches, if needed,

This is what we already do for the uploaded packages.

> * or incorporate revisions into our Debian naming scheme
> and then apply the revision changes by the normal
> upstream package upgrade process.

Since our packaging workflow is based on upstream tarballs, this will be
a little bit harder to be implemented, since there is no tarball for
version foo-1.0r1 which we can download from Hackage. We would have to
download foo-1.0r0 and metadata for foo-1.0r1 and repack. Not
impossible, but it might not worth the trouble.

-- 
Ilias


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