Hi. On 03/05/2011 21:34, cheater cheater wrote: > Hi, > I have been informed this is the right place to ask: Well, kind of: the list you wrote to is primarily meant for automatic messages; you should use debian-haskell@lists.debian.org instead. I'm moving the discussion there. Moreover, this list is meant for the Debian operating system (and I'm a Debian developer, not an Ubuntu one). While there are also some Ubuntu developers hanging around and coworking with us, this is definitely not the place to take some authoritative decision for Ubuntu. > What are the > steps neede for Ubuntu 10.04 to get the Haskell Platform? It's good > enough if it's similar to the ones in Maverick (Ubuntu 10.10) or one > of the newer versions. An update to ghc 7 would also be good. Ubuntu 10.04 has been released one year ago, so it's a stable distribution now. I'm not completely aware of the update policy enforced by Ubuntu for the released distributions, but I don't think it's easy to add new packages or a new major version of GHC, as they're clearly totally optional for most Ubuntu users. I really doubt they would be accepted for Debian stable, and don't think that Ubuntu's policy is significantly weaker. That said, it seems that Ubuntu has some backport repositories for maverick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick-backports/ I don't know anything about the policy in use, so you should probably investigate that and understand who's responsible for them. Remember, anyway, that users are free to install packages directly using cabal. > If this is not the right place, please direct me where I should go to > request this to be done. > > If there's any information needed, please don't hesitate to ask. > > Motivation: > > Ubuntu 10.04 is LTS, it will hang around until at least 2015, and > after it stops being supported by Canonical it's still going to be on > some deployments. Using 10.04 LTS is currently for many people the > right choice if they want to run Ubuntu on a server, or in educational > institutions, which are exactly the kind of environments that Haskell > is trying to reach. > > The current package layout for Haskell under Ubuntu 10.04 is that it's > split across multiple packages. It does not conform to the usual > Haskell package layout. Why? Usually Haskell developers split their work in many small packages: there are some Hackage packages that have no more than a dozen lines of code. We'd love not to have this fragmentation, but have no choice over it. Putting more than one Haskell package in one Debian package is not an easy thing: it's on our TODO list to understand how that could be accomplished. If you have good idea, we're listening for you, of course! :-) In the meantime, we're forced to equivalence "one Haskell package per Debian package". > This in turn means that the documentation on > the official Haskell-related pages is contrary to what needs to be > done in order to install and use Haskell on 10.04. > > As an additional note, when spoken to about this issue. Don Stewart > (one of the main Haskell community supporters) has mentioned he didn't > know 10.04 LTS would be hanging around for so long and if that's the > case he definitely thinks it's a good idea to make a Haskell Platform > package available for 10.04. I don't understand what you consider a "Haskell Platform package". In maverick there is a "haskell-platform" package that depends on all the packages for the platform distributed with Maverick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/haskell-platform What's its problem? Cheers, Giovanni. -- Giovanni Mascellani <mascellani@poisson.phc.unipi.it> Pisa, Italy Web: http://poisson.phc.unipi.it/~mascellani Jabber: g.mascellani@jabber.org / giovanni@elabor.homelinux.org
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