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Re: Our ax25libs packages

On 12/24/2010 06:21 AM, Thomas Osterried wrote:


It's generaly not wise for software to rely on forks.
Well, a fork is just that; I don't see that it means that either branch is more or less worthy. 


Over the years, Bernard tends to attend his own fork and sends pointers
for his work to mailing-lists.
Sometimes we as maintainers get an info that this or that should be
included in the official version.


I asked him if he sent his patches upstream.  He said yes, FWIW.


We include patches and enhancements
   - if they're sent to us and not only silently put to an ftp-server somewhere in the world
   - if they really fix the problem
   - if they show clearly what they do
   - if they raise no other issues
   - if they have match a quality standard


Very sensible standards.



Please do not use the release candidate "rc2" because it has known problems.
When will there be something that fixes that? The last non-rc release you've put out also has known problems (kissnetd is completely unusable due to lack of Unix98 PTY support, for instance). Are fixes for the rc2 issues made? If so, could there be an rc3 or release soon? I'm concerned that the download links at linux-ax25.org all point to rc2, with no indication that it has known issues. Apparently it's been that way since June 2009. 

-- John



vy 73,
	- Thomas  dl9sau


On 2010-12-23 15:38:49 -0600, John Goerzen<jgoerzen@complete.org>
wrote in<[🔎] 4D13C169.9090202@complete.org>:

Hi folks,

In talking with the current maintainer of FBB, the question about
AX.25 libraries comes up.  Apparently he is maintaining a fork from
the default ones.  I would probably share his opinion of the
maintainers in general (or at least of one of them).

Your thoughts on switching to his fork?

-- John

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: rc2 packages - was  [xfbb] Segfault
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 19:41:34 +0100
From: Bernard Pidoux<bpidoux@free.fr>
To: List for the LINUX version of FBB<xfbb@f6fbb.org>
CC: John Goerzen<jgoerzen@complete.org>,  "Bernard, f6bvp"<f6bvp@free.fr>

Hi John,

Yes I meant rc-2. Sorry for the typo.
The differences between linux-ax25.org rc2 and my patches are explained
on ham list
http://marc.info/?l=linux-hams&m=127100518308225&w=4
Follow the discussion with<next-thread>  and<previous thread>

I sent patches years ago but the maintainers were not very reactive.
Other contributors provided some patches that I collected.
I advertized new versions on the list, each time sending CC to ax25.org
maintainers.
Finally they havec included some patches into CVS repository.
But they are not yet published in available rc2 packages. And rc2 are
quite old.
See http://www.linux-ax25.org/cvsweb/

As we cannot wait for years to get a working ROSE/FPAC system we must go
on and
use our own libraries and tools and apps.
This is peculiarly true for ax25ipd we have been using for years now
after a very
convenient patch allowing dynamic IP use.

All AX.25 stuff included in distro (Debian, Mandriva, RedHat etc...) are
quite obsolete and
do not work. Lets hope this will evolve if someone cares. However the
number of contributors
to hamradio software is sadly getting less every year. Lets hope we will
see a reverse curve like
the sunspots cycle !

73 de Bernard, f6bvp



Le 23/12/2010 02:25, John Goerzen a écrit :

On 12/22/2010 05:48 PM, Bernard, f6bvp wrote:

Hi John,

Dozens of stations with Debian derived Ubuntu Linux are using my
rc12-patched libraries


Did you mean rc2?  And can you explain the difference between the
linux-ax25.org libraries and your patched versions?  Do they plan to
integrate your patches?


versions without facing any problem.
I strongly recommand using it

73 de Bernard, f6bvp


Le 22/12/2010 22:51, John Goerzen a écrit :

On 12/22/2010 02:43 PM, f6bvp wrote:

Hi John,

This is an interesting report.
First we have to be sure you started FBB correctly, i.e. using rc.fbb
script.
Could you provide us the FBB log file in /var/log/fbb.log


I have no log file at that location, but I have
/var/ax25/fbb/log/fbblog10.51. Is that what you want?



Also, what AX25 libraries did you installed ? Is it the one from
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/libax25-0.0.12_rc2-1_i386.deb
or from source package
http://f6bvp.free.fr/logiciels/ax25/libax25-0.0.12-rc2.patched_f6bvp.tar.bz2




I am using the AX.25 libraries built into Debian, which are
0.0.11-6.1. There was some discussion about switching to the RCs in an
unrelated bug report I filed, but several people felt that the RCs
were of significantly lower stability than official releases.

Also I am on amd64.


We will then see if it is necessary to start some debug session
including libax25
and FBB.


Yes, will be happy to run gdb/strace/whatever.

-- John





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