I just happened to be fiddling around with satellite tracking and tried to track MIR, quite by accident. With predict 2.0.0 (in potato), predict hangs! In 2.1.3 (unstable), it says it can't be tracked for my ground station (OK). SatTrack says: Satellite 'MIR' crashed already amused, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB <hamish@debian.org> <hamish@cloud.net.au>