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Re: Installing Gnome 2.12 with apt-get...

> [NOTE: this is not a flame war email. So, please do not start one]

No problemo ;-)

> Hello,
> Remember that experimental needs packages from Unstable since this is
> not a self contained "distribution". That means that if you are adding
> 'experimental' to your sources.list, you must also add 'unstable' and
> perhaps even 'testing'.

Of course my sources.list contains testing, unstable and experimental !

> Now, not to discourage you but, if you search through the list
> archives you will find that for every new version of Gnome, there is a
> plethora of problems and the packages for testing/experimentating with
> gnome are never "public". After much fuzzing and tinkering with this
> topic, i decided to take matters into my own hands... This was also
> discourage by the Gnome Pkg maintainers because of other reasons
> (which i understand. mostly bugs that could arise later when my own
> packages clash with packages made by them when they are made
> available).

I consider Gnome 2.12 packages as beta (or alpha ;-)) ones and, if I
have too many problems, I will re-install my pc !!!
I am a MS beta tester for years, so...

> I don't think any of us have time to either package gnome by ourselves
> everytime there is a new release of gnome. So, in my case, i just
> switch to Ubuntu. I keep a Sarge box around just in case, but every
> other desktop system i own is running Ubuntu. And i'm happy i did:
> everything just works and I have the latest version of Gnome at my
> disposal. You can't go wrong.
> In short you have two choices (or perhaps three if you count packaging
> gnome2.12 yourself):
> 1. wait for the gnome 2.12 packages to go to 'testing' (Etch) (perhaps
> 2 more years)
> 2. use the Ubuntu packages (or the Ubuntu "Breezy" distribution)

And unstable distribution ? May be less than 2 years, no ?

> Number 1 has been the favorite for Debian package maintainers for
> years. It does work for them, especially for servers. However, some of
> us think that if upstream releases packages as "stable" they are
> stable and we are nobody to say they need even more testing. The only
> thing that might need testing is the way that the debian packages
> integrate with the rest of the old libraries currently in debian -- or
> those libraries used by the desktop packages should be updated
> accordingly as we go along using upstream "stable" sources. [Yes, this
> is how "unstable" is supposed to work but it never really does. Look
> at how old some packages are and the debian maintainers refuse
> publicly to update them. gdm comes to mind... i'm sure there are
> others]
> Cheers,

Thank you for your answer...


> On 11/10/05, David BERCOT <david.bercot@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>         Hi,
>         I hope I am on the right list...
>         I'd like to install Gnome 2.12 but I have some dependencies
>         problems.
>         If I do : apt-get install -t experimental gnome, it needs
>         other packages
>         from experimental but, if I'm right, apt does not search them
>         in 
>         experimental.
>         Do you know if there is a command line which says to apt to
>         install
>         gnome from experimental, and, if necessary, others packages
>         from the
>         same source ?
>         Thank you very much.
>         David.
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