Re: File open dialog: Where is my tab extension
On Mon, Jul 19, 2004 at 02:03:47PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote:
> On sam, 2004-07-17 at 15:19 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > users, and i am having some real doubt about the quality of our gnome
> > packages,
>
> Thanks, I really appreciate.
Well, let's say about gnome in general, not the debian packages maybe. If i
install it on customers machine, and things go awry, i will have to do
maintenance, not counting our image and such.
> > especially as i am told about problems like esd not being
>
> esd is maintained by Ryan not the GNOME Team ...
Well, i was under the understanding that it was gnome-session's fault, for
launching esd, but not killing it once it exists the session.
> > killed when the user logs out, or the lacking usb-stick support for
> > example.
>
> Which support are you expecting from GNOME ? Could you point the bug
> number in the BTS for this wishlist please (not easy to keep in mind the
> bug open for all these packages) ?
I have not yet filled that, i am heavy in earlier support stage (kernel work
and debian-installer, so desktop stuff is lesser priority).
I had done a hack, which fills in the right stuff in /etc/fstab so it shows up
in gnome, and some hotplug scripts to auto mount/umount it. Not perfect
though. At LinuxTag, sven told me that udev and gnome-volume-manager would be
the way to go, but the volume manager thingy cares only about CDs and such,
but not about usb sticks, so this failed also.
> > Well, i expected to get the debian gnome maintainers to acknowledge the
> > problem,
>
> Which problem ? You don't share upstream point of view apparently (sorry
> the email I use for the mailing list was down for 2 days, just catching
> up with the thread), but it's not possible to have everybody agreeing on
> a point, some people always look on things in a different way.
Well, i want to know what you think about it, as main gnome maintainer or so,
to know if i will be saddled with upstreams decision, if you plan to do
something about it, or not, if it makes sense proposing solutions or even
patches, or if it is just lost time, or if it would be best to propose a
forked set of packages with reasonable behavior.
> BTW have an url field in the gtk+ fileselector seems to be a reasonnable
> option. The discussion seems to be open upstream (pointed previously in
> the thread):
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136541
Ok.
> > And i still feel that it is the duty of a debian maintainer to be the
> > interface between the users (and co-developers) and upstream, but maybe
> > i am dreaming, and not everyone has the same kind of dedication to its
> > users.
>
> Thanks again for the quick judgement.
Well, this is what Jeff and co said here, didn't they ?
> BTW, if you have some time one day, please have a look in the BTS for
> GNOME packages. Just to see the number of bug reported upstream. And
> while you are here please have a look on GNOME lists and bugzilla too to
> see the changes which have been made/discussed with upstream (ie: the
> gconf changes recently made).
Yep.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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