RE: New dependences in gnome-core, might be better in gnome?
> From: debian-gtk-gnome-request@lists.debian.org
> <quote who="Murray.Cumming@Comneon.com">
>
> > Again, I don't think it is for the debian packagers of
> GNOME to decide
> > what is part of GNOME. I think that would be a radical non-upstream
> > patch, with no compelling reason.
>
> !!!
>
> Are you kidding?
Please try not react so violently. There really is no harm in discussing.
> Do you think that it is up to GNOME to
> decide what Debian ships? As upstream, we can make
> recommendations based on our knowledge of the software,
> underlying intentions and user base, but... I think you're
> going way over the top in this case. It's not like Red Hat,
> SuSE, Mandrake or any of the others give a crap about "radial
> non-upstream patches" to their GNOME-based desktop solutions.
Well, I _think_ that debian tries not to do so many non-upstream patches. I
could be wrong. As I said, I'm not a seasoned debian user. I do think that a
distro should have a rationale for making major changes to a package (and I
personally like to think of GNOME as a package). I think that packagers
should default to assuming that the GNOME community have considered what's
useful for a Desktop. After all, GNOME and the debian GNOME packagers should
have very similar aims.
Of course none of the GNOME developers think that they can force anything
into a distro, and I've often pointed out that that would be a silly and
futile reason to add something to a GNOME release set.
If a distro doesn't want to package all of GNOME, or to present a GNOME
package that isn't representative of GNOME, then that's OK. It's their
choice. But I think I'm free to point out the disadvantages.
> This comes down to a very Debian-specific issue of figuring
> out how the meta packages are going to be most useful to
> Debian users, not making sure everything Debian does equates
> to GNOME's upstream decisions (no matter how much effort went
> into them).
Yes, but wouldn't it be nice if people got GNOME when they thought they were
getting GNOME?
Murray Cumming
www.murrayc.com
murrayc@usa.net
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