Re: XD2 for debian woody
El vie, 01-08-2003 a las 08:45, Jérôme Warnier escribió:
> Le ven 01/08/2003 à 10:25, Ghe Rivero a écrit :
> > Hi people!
> >
> > Sorry for my delayed, but my access to inet in the last days is really
> > limited.
> You're welcome.
>
> > El vie, 01-08-2003 a las 01:33, Roberto Majadas escribió:
> > > El vie, 01-08-2003 a las 03:38, JérÎme Warnier escribió:
> > > > Le ven 01/08/2003 à 02:12, Roberto Majadas a écrit :
> > > > > El vie, 01-08-2003 a las 01:59, JérÎme Warnier escribió:
> > > > > > Le ven 01/08/2003 à 01:12, Roberto Majadas a écrit :
> > > > > > > Hi debian-devel :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm a board member of hispalinux [1] , and actually we are working very
> > > > > > > hard on metadistros project. This project [1] will be a perfect platform
> > > > > > > for develop cumstomizated debian distros. Now , we are making the XD2
> > > > > > > debian packages for integrate them in the metadistros project. This
> > > > > > > packages , like metadistros, will be debian woody compatible. An member
> > > > > > > of hispalinux lend us a server (P4-2GHz 512 ram 50Gb HD) for to work on
> > > > > > > it. Actually , Ghe Riveiro [3] is working and coordinating it. If
> > > > > > > anybody is interested on it , please contact with Ghe [3]. Any
> > > > > > > contribution is welcome.
> > > > > > What would bring the XD2 for Woody compared to the GNOME 2.2 backport
> > > > > > already widely available?
> > > > >
> > > > > XD2 in respect of gnome2.2 is more integrated , more eye-candy for the
> > > > > final user. XD2 has a integrated system for printer's configuration , an
> > > > > OpenOffice(1.0.2) integrated with gnome (theme, icons, gnome-vfs ...) ,
> > > > > Evolution 1.4 , and other things . Please look at
> > > > > http://www.ximian.com/products/desktop/features.html
> > > > I know all that.
> > > > I was wondering if you planned to make some Ximian patches (the ones
> > > > that could be accepted anyway) available in Debian or just a
> > > > quick-and-dirty packaging effort.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Quick yes , dirty not :) . We need this packages for serveral reasons.
> > > We use debian and metadistros for to show linux , debian and free
> > > software to the people. We can show debian woody with gnome1.4 :). And
> > > we can wait to the next release of debian, because we need a metadistro
> > > with a beatiful desktop on 15th september 2001, because we ha a national
> > > conference of linux users (in spain) on 23,24,25 september. This year
> > > may be can come to the conference 2000 persons or more. And we have more
> > > events along this year as important as the other one.
> >
> > Other reason is the installation of 300 WorkStations with Debian in my
> > university. Of course, i'm going to install Debian, but the desktops
> > that came with Woody are not the best ones (For me are really cool, but
> > not for students that the only thing that know about linux is the
> > "fucking, stupid and fat penguin")
> Ok, I undestand better now.
> But why not put an effort to help the quick release of Sarge instead?
For me that's perfect but , we want it and we want it now (You know,
always the time it's a problem)
> Or at least, help the maintainers of some packages to get the latest
> releases from Sid into Sarge?
I'm taking holidays today, but when i come back, i'll take a look at
this.
> I lately personally involved myself in the backport of GNOME 2.2 with
> James Strandboge, and I'm already commited with the Debian packages of
> OOo for a long time (one year or so, since the beginning).
Good job!
> > > > > > What kind of work are you going to do?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think ghe can replay you better than me , i'm not a debian developer
> > > > > :) but basically we are including the ximian-patches into the gnome2.2
> > > > > backported packages .
> > > > Could you ask him?
> >
> > We (Just me for the moment) are taking the port of Gnome2.2 for Woody
> > like the base, and just applying the patches and recompiling the
> > packages (actually it is not so easy). We want to change the Woody base
> > as little as possible, so we are downgrouding some dependencies (as
> > debhelper, and things like that). Apart of this, we are using the ports
> > of Branden XFree4.2 packages for Woody for the moment (deb
> > http://people.debian.org/~frankie/debian woody/x421/) but we are waiting
> > to a realase of 4.3.
> About the dependencies, just take a look at how many bug reports I
> submitted to lower the dependencies versions in official packages when
> it was not necessary.
> For the debhelper question, on the contrary, I was finally convinced
> that using a backported debhelper is mandatory, because of the new cdbs
> which is used in newer packages in Sid. I just had a discussion about it
> with James a few days ago and concluded it wasn't worth.
>
> A thing that needs work, I think, is the integration of Ximian patches
> to OOo. I just started yesterday with this, you can find more
> information here: http://glasnost.beeznest.org/rubrics/12.
Uhm... that's sound great! (Less work for me!) Again, after holidays
i'lll take a look
> I know exactly what you mean when you say it's not that easy. I think we
> should work together, because we are doing similar things. How could we
> do that? Should we create a mailing-list or what? I can provide that if
> needed (on http://glasnost.beeznest.org or on http://www.bxlug.be).
> James, what do you think, do you jump too?
>
> > Any other question is welcomed.
> >
> > Ghe Rivero
Ghe Rivero
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