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Re: root login



On Fri, May 02, 2003 at 05:45:58PM -0400, Randy Duran wrote:
> n Thu, 2003-05-01 at 18:25, Walter Reed wrote:
> 
> <snipped>
> 
> > I WILL agree that some things could be a little easier in Debian or
> > other flavors of Linux. For example it would be nice to have a GUI
> > root-wrapper that could be accessed via the standard menu like the "Run
> > Program...", or maybe even just a checkbox option to Run Program that
> > does the "su" thang. It would also be nice if admin level apps would
> > just ASK for the root password if needed, and continue on.
> 
> > The bottom line, though, is that it's just not that hard to do it with
> > the existing methods. In fact, it's MUCH faster and easier to just open
> > a term window and /bin/su and do your stuff than to logout, login as
> > root, do stuff, then logout again, and re-login as a normal user as the
> > "pro-root-login" camp is pushing. The "root IS my normal user" camp is
> > just too loopy to even address here.
> 
> <more snipped> 
> 
> There are utilities in gnome 2 (in sid at least, I don't have a sarge
> box handy to check if it's there too) that already do what you just
> described. See the gnomesu package.
> 
> Figure I might as well toss my 2cents,  I for one, think the system menu
> for the console should be enabled by default, with Allowroot login
> turned off by default.  that way at least the the people who (feel the)
> need to log in as root at the console can through the extra step of
> enabling it if they choose.  I thought Linux/Unix was supposed to allow
> you to shoot yourself in the foot?   :)

As the configuration item in the system menu needs the root password,
only people with the root password can shoot themselves in the foot.
That said, i can understand that some would not want the shutdown/reboot
items to be available to everyone, especially on multi-user boxes.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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