Re: root login
<quote who="Sven Luther">
> > (You can actually use this from GDM itself, if you allow it, but that's not
> > quite your point.)
>
> But it is disabled out of the box,
Ah, I see it was what you wanted your point to be... Don't worry about it,
it's not a general solution to the problem presented. You're thinking about
specific features here.
> Now, i think the logout/shutdown thingy cannot be done as easily. Maybe
> a hidden/gconf setting to use sudo would enable this, i don't think it
> would be that difficult to do, you just need to :
>
> o add the gconf pref.
>
> o add the sudo call before doing the actual shutdown.
>
> Right ?
No, not really. This is not a general solution. Lots of people don't have
sudo installed, let alone use it, let alone know how it works. Is there even
a reasonable sudo *configurator* GUI? Can't find anything in Debian, which
for all intents and purposes means "no". :-)
> I was never able to really understand how the redhat thingy was working, i
> have thought since a long time that the easiest solution would be to have
> a message passing system between the gnome/whatever logout dialog and
> gdm/kdm/whatever which would tell gdm to not reload X, but do the actual
> shutdown.
Why not use (and put a pretty / usable face on) existing infrastructure?
> Another message passing system with lilo/grub, would enable you to have a
> kind of reboot into <a list of alternatives boots>.
> It would be non-portable and i386 only, but i guess that if we have a
> correct protocol for this, other arches boot-loaders can also adapt to it.
It also sounds somewhat overblown and unnecessary. You're trying to put a
usable face on a process that most users simply won't care about. Stupid but
relevant point: Ever seen a Mac or Windows user boot a different kernel? :-)
Anyway, the point is that GNOME needs a general solution to these problems
that is portable and secure.
- Jeff
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