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Re: evolution etc...



Michel Dänzer wrote:

> Adam C Powell IV wrote:
>
> > > Speaking of menus, I've also had a problem with the GNOME menus for some
> > > time. The main menu (foot on panel) doesn't contain the Debian part, and
> > > it doesn't follow changes in the Control Center.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't use sawfish, but on this second one, I've noticed the Debian
> > submenu disappearing and reappearing through the 1.2 series.  It seems to
> > disappear with a major upstream change, and reappear shortly thereafter.
> > Now that I have an i386 box running unstable, I can assure you it's not an
> > architecture thing.
>
> At least. :)
>
> I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there for
> months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time I switched
> to Helix.

I see, if you're using Helix, that's a different story, I can't help you.  The
official .deb had the Debian menu in there for a couple of months, lost it on
the... uh, I take back what I said earlier about upstream changes, it seems to
have disappeared somewhere between 1.2.4-9 and -11.  (Mistook the extra digit in
the Deb release number for an upstream version change. :-)

In general, Christian Marillat, Takuo Kitame, etc. (too many to list) are doing a
nice job of supporting Debianisms in the official GNOME packages, from menu to
doc-base to Build-Depends to upgradability (is doc-base supported by the Helix
packages? are they still not automatically "upgradable" back to the official
debs?), and generally lag Helix by at most a week or two, so I've built and
uploaded and used these instead of Helix.

Disclaimer: no hard feelings against Ximian (greeted a bunch of them at Mary
Chung's Chinese restaurant about a month ago, and thanked them for the hard work
and cool software :-).

Open question to the Debian-GNOME list: are there any discussions with Ximian
about long-term maintainership of these packages?  Or are we going to have two
sets of packages for the indefinite future?  The duplication of effort may not be
overwhelming (like GNOME vs., uh, never mind), but it's not exactly trivial
either...  E.g. if someone were to offer to take over my (unrelated) PETSc
packages, I could work on new features instead of package maintenance.

Just wondering,

-Adam P.

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