Bug#111268: Svenska språknämnden is a preferrable authority for Swedish as a language
On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 07:46:05PM +0200, Göran Uddeborg wrote:
> Keld Jørn Simonsen writes:
> > I think SIS - Sewdish Institute for Standardisation is also a preferable
> > source for Swedish Language, and especially when it comes to computers.
>
> You know what they say about standards: The nice thing about standards
> is that there are so many of them to choose from. :-) Andrew
> S. Tanenbaum I believe.
>
> When I wrote "preferable" I meant Svenska språknämnden should be
> preferred over other authorities when in conflict. In this sense,
> they can't both be preferable.
What I meant is that the specific standards overrules the more general
standards. The specification from SIS is directly addressed towards
POSIX locales, which is what we are talking about here, while Svenska Språknämnden
is more generic.
> Is there a SIS standard for dates too, or are you referring to the ITS
> standard mentioned previously? What is the number?
Yes, there is a SIS standard for dates, I believe it is SIS/ISO 8601.
>
> > I do not find 12:34 very technical, it is very common everywhere.
>
> In the end I assume you can't get away from an element of taste. And
> we probably have different tastes in this case.
>
> But I don't find it common at all. Any newspaper, timetable, sign
> with opening hours, program tableaus on TV etc. appears to use the
> format with ".". At least wherever I look. Do you have any counter
> examples? I'm not saying it doesn't exist, I'm sure it does
> somewhere. But I don't find it common.
As you may know I am a Dane living in Denmark, but only 3 swedish miles from one of
the bigger Swedish cities, Malmö. I am an active member of one of the biggest
Swedish Linux user groups, SSLUG, which also covers København. I have seen the 12:34 on train
stations. Anyway I am refering to official Swedish standards and
specifications, like SIS/ISO 8601 and the swedish specification for POSIX locales and other
computer software, given in the url I gave.
> > SIS has made a recommendation to use either 12:34:56 or 12.34.56
> > as the time format, and mentions 12:34:56 first. This is a description
> > made especially for locales, and it would then take precedence over what
> > Svenska Språknämden prescribes.
>
> Since SIS recommends either, and Svenska språknänden recommends 12.34
> (and actually discourages 12:34), we could follow both by keeping it
> as it is (i.e. 12.34). Following both standards is better than
> following just one, isn't it? :-)
The request was to change it to 12:34 and my recommendation was to allow
it. I could ask the SSLUG user group what they want, we are in the long
run trying to satisfy users, nicht wahr, eller hur:-)
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