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Bug#165358: workaround for __libc_fork and winex 2.0



On Mon, 2002-11-04 at 07:01, GOTO Masanori wrote:

> Yes, we have to warn "for developer, you don't use such an internal
> symbol", but from user point of view "I don't know such a export
> issue, because I am a user". Sarge release documents only say some
> commercial programs do not run after sarge, so we recommend to
> upgrade such softwares.

Then, is it possible to put a hack in the linker that prints an message
to STDERR or something?  Something really clear like "This package has
had a work around applied to it to make it run.  Please get a new
version.  It will break sometime in the future".

I mean, obviously the wording should be such that the user doesn't
panic.

> In addition, the most important benefit is "we don't see this kind
> of BTS" :-)

*lol*  True...

I want to make sure we're not dragging crap around from version to
version, and having to attempt to preserve this indefinetly.  Daniel
notes:

> __libc_waitpid's hiding is not interface-related, it's
> namespace-related.  There are no changing interfaces involved, and
it's
> clear that we can safely continue to export it unless there's a major
> change.

But I think that part of the hiding of the interface is that upstream is
free to change this interface at any time without notifying us.  Let's
say drepper changed it for 2.3.2.  (Note that I'm just about to run to
work, so I don't have time to look up what the actual interface is) 
Something subtle like changing the width of a parameter, or making it a
pointer instead of passing a value.  What we're proposing here is that
we will track those changes and compensate for them.  If we don't, some
upload sometime will start causing segfaults, or creating processes with
strange properties and do so subtly.  We'll then spend time chasing down
why "Upgrading to 2.x.y causes my JVM to segfault" when having it block
at load time could have solved the problem.

Perhaps the warning could also be changed to say "Symbol not found,
perhaps upgrade your program?" or something like that, with an
explanation of what the typical causes of that error message are?

Tks,
Jeff Bailey

-- 
When you get to the heart,
use a knife and fork.
 - From instructions on how to eat an artichoke.

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