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Re: [DebianGIS] Bug#588812: [DebianGIS-dev] Debian GIS metapackages available

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:12:29 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:

> Andreas Tille schrieb am Wednesday, den 14. July 2010:
> > Hi Francesco,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 03:40:53PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> > > 
> > > I have not specific preferences about lists, I simply would note that
> > > pkg-grass-general/devel were born at the time to manage a low traffic
> > > packaging oriented list and listmasters had the opinion that alioth
> > > lists were appropriate for that.
> > 
> > I hope that listmasters will agree that this is not the case any more.

I agree with this too.

DebianGIS is far wider than just GRASS. And, while for the insiders is just an
historical detail, for those outside the blend the name is way misleading. I've
heard lots of people saying "but that's just GRASS, I'm not involved with it";
and me replying "don't worry, it's general GIS, post your request there".

> > > That said, I would also note that
> > > current -general list is closed to subscribers, while debian-gis
> > > would be open to the world (as generally done for all listmasters lists), 
> > > with obvious consequence for subscribers about spamming...
> > 
> > The pros and cons are heavily discussed in the past and I do not think
> > it makes sense to repeat this discussion.  I personally get about one or
> > two mails per month from each mailinlist @l.d.o thanks to the
> > spamfilters the listmasters applied (thanks to the effort of
> > listmasters!) and local SPAM filters.  That's IMHO acceptable.

Agreed. AFAICT the filters on lists.d.o are more efficient than the ones on

> > I take your mail as somethink like "it is fine for me to create the list
> > if you care for it" and thus I hope the mailing list can be created soon.
> > 
> > Question to listmasters:  Is it possible to take over the content of the
> > list archive of pkg-grass-general to debian-gis archive?  I guess the
> > different listservers might make this hard and I do not really want to
> > put this on you.  But if there would be a reasonable way to do this it
> > would be probably a good idea.
> Its no problem to import old mails if the come in a common format like mbox. 

It would be great, yes :)
> If you really want this list get some seconders and complete the request as
> listed in: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/HOWTO_start_list. 

I wholeheartedly second the creation of debian-gis@lists.debian.org .

However, maybe the associated -dev/-commits/-scm/-... should stay on Alioth?
It's mainly packaging matters (commits and tags, I'd say), but it would be
good if it was renamed to debian-gis-*@lists.a.d.o as well. Ah, IMVHO.

My 2€c,

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