Re: [DebianGIS] Re: Re: GIS tools missing in Debian?
hi,
i am increasingly convinced that the debian spirit should be better
understood:
as main debian is striving to a rock stable environment, the satelite
debian projects, as debian gis, should provide state of the specific art
packages, all suitable for stable, too.
in my opinion, main debian should contain only really generic tools and
libraries, to make it hard for a debian subproject to conflict with.
repositories with major packages upgraded should be called
testing/unstable/experimental.
generic packages from testing/unstable/experimental should get
backported to stable all the time.
at the same time, a database of all packages and file names should be
maintained, to avoid duplicates.
specific conflicts between packages may possibly raise at any level when
users use software from several subprojects, and should be solved by
specific maintainers.
alex
F.Sluiter wrote:
> Hi,
>
> [Petter]
>
>>Right, so the next release of debian (etch) will hopefully have all
>>the tools you would have needed. That is good to know.
>
> Yes, I think so too. Except that the packaging proces of debian tends
> to be slower then other distributions (mostly because all packages are
> rigourlesly tested before they are labelled stable, which is a very
> good thing). But as Frank pointed out: customers need functionality
> and are not allways willing to wait for the next stable release.
>
>
>>[Floris]
>>
>>>Debian also lacks an important feature of Fedora: you can not sent a
>>>check somewhere to obtain a license.
>>
>>[Petter]
>>Do they want the license, or do they want to pay someone for having
>>sometome to blame if something is wrong? I suspect the latter, as I
>>have never meet a company where the license as such was the issue.
>>Covering ones ass by having someone externally to call and blame is on
>>the other hand more common.
>
> The latter of course :-).
> As a footnote: Debian is in fact used on our large 272 dual node
> supercomputer (http://www.sara.nl/userinfo/lisa/description/), however
> it is maintained by a different department then the database server,
> hence the migration towards Fedora. Not using debian was decided for
> both reasons: lack of packages and lack of support in that department.
> It should all make perfectly sense allthough it is not very obvious...
>
>
>>[Petter]
>>Great. Do you use any of the other GIS tools in Debian?
>
> Most libraries/tools like gdal and proj etc. Check some of my work on:
> http://meridian.science.uva.nl/bambas2/
> Spatial analysis was done with Matlab/Octave and R.
>
> I'm currently working on a large distributed gis-database project,
> involving 10+ large databases (all postgresql8-pgis) with records on
> species distribution in the netherlands. The link above is a small
> subproject only on birddistribution, we are currently working on more
> then 15.000 species like flowers, plants, butterflies, snakes... some
> of these databases have more then 100M records!
> And to finish my resume: I have a Msc in computer science, majored in
> processor architecture simulation. The database project also contains
> a large part in datamining, and large scale modelling/simulation, so I
> get to play with the supercomputer a lot.
> Anyway,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Floris
>
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