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[Freedombox-discuss] New Samsung Chromebook

See 57:52 and following:
"having a way to put your own keys on it so you can sign your own
images and boot your own stuff."
"for things that don't have user interfaces, like your legs."

Or insulin pumps, pacemakers, and ICDs.

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 1:43 AM, Russell Edwards <russell at edwds.net> wrote:
> Not google's style?
> Goodness me... remind me what their business model is again.   Isn't it
> something to do with spying on you and on-selling the data for profit?
> Russell
> On 20/10/12 19:01, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> ----- Forwarded message from peter green<plugwash at p10link.net>  -----
>> From: peter green<plugwash at p10link.net>
>> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:21:24 +0100
>> To: debian-arm at lists.debian.org
>> Subject:  Re: New Samsung Chromebook
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird (X11/20100228)
>> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:51:39PM -0400, Bryan King wrote:
>>>> I am seriously thinking about it given the attractive price point of
>>>> $249.
>>> Yes, but does Google want you to be able to install Linux on it
>> I don't see why not. It's not google's style to sell locked down devices.
>> Also I just had a chat on irc with a google employee who had the following
>> to say.
>> <plugwash>  Hexxeh, you arround?
>> <Hexxeh>  yeah
>> <plugwash>  just wondering if you know anything about the new chromebook
>> <Hexxeh>  quite a bit, i worked on it :)
>> <Hexxeh>  well, not directly, but same team anyhow
>> <plugwash>  ok some questions
>> <plugwash>  1: can you put regular linux on it or are you stuck with
>> chromeos?
>> <plugwash>  2: does it overheat if you try and run it with the lid shut
>> under heavy CPU load for long periods
>> <plugwash>  3: is the USB stack reliable
>> <Hexxeh>  you could debootstrap debian or something onto there
>> <Hexxeh>  you do need to self-sign your own kernel or use the chrome os
>> one and put it into the spare KERN-C partition
>> <Hexxeh>  as far as having the lid shut and thermals, i'm not too sure
>> <Hexxeh>  it's certainly going to throttle before you kill it
>> <Hexxeh>  i guess there's just too many factors that would affect it for
>> me to call that
>> <Hexxeh>  USB stack wise, as far as I know, but don't quote me
>> <Hexxeh>  if you find it isn't, do report bugs and people will take care
>> of it
>> <Hexxeh>  i don't think we'd be releasing it if it weren't though ;)
>> * sliddjur has quit (Quit: L?mnar)
>> <plugwash>  how is it cooled?
>> <Hexxeh>  it's passively cooled
>> * DeviaVir has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
>> <Hexxeh>  heat gets conducted through the rest of the casing
>> <Hexxeh>  as far as i know, anyway
>> <Hexxeh>  i've used one of them for a while but i haven't torn it apart
>> and don't know massive amounts about the internal design
>> <plugwash>  yeah, i'm just wondering how badly they would suffer if you
>> stacked a load of them on a rack shelf with USB3 hard drives and USB2
>> ethernet adaptors and used them as autobuilders
>> <Hexxeh>  just asked around people who know more about this stuff
>> <Hexxeh>  go ahead and stack them with the lids closed
>> <Hexxeh>  as long as you're not nailing the GPU you ought to be fine
>> <Hexxeh>  :)
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