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[Freedombox-discuss] New Samsung Chromebook

Not google's style?

Goodness me... remind me what their business model is again.   Isn't it 
something to do with spying on you and on-selling the data for profit?


On 20/10/12 19:01, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> ----- Forwarded message from peter green<plugwash at p10link.net>  -----
> From: peter green<plugwash at p10link.net>
> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 00:21:24 +0100
> To: debian-arm at lists.debian.org
> Subject:  Re: New Samsung Chromebook
> User-Agent: Thunderbird (X11/20100228)
> Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 09:51:39PM -0400, Bryan King wrote:
>>> I am seriously thinking about it given the attractive price point of $249.
>> Yes, but does Google want you to be able to install Linux on it
> I don't see why not. It's not google's style to sell locked down devices.
> Also I just had a chat on irc with a google employee who had the following
> to say.
> <plugwash>  Hexxeh, you arround?
> <Hexxeh>  yeah
> <plugwash>  just wondering if you know anything about the new chromebook
> <Hexxeh>  quite a bit, i worked on it :)
> <Hexxeh>  well, not directly, but same team anyhow
> <plugwash>  ok some questions
> <plugwash>  1: can you put regular linux on it or are you stuck with
> chromeos?
> <plugwash>  2: does it overheat if you try and run it with the lid shut
> under heavy CPU load for long periods
> <plugwash>  3: is the USB stack reliable
> <Hexxeh>  you could debootstrap debian or something onto there
> <Hexxeh>  you do need to self-sign your own kernel or use the chrome os
> one and put it into the spare KERN-C partition
> <Hexxeh>  as far as having the lid shut and thermals, i'm not too sure
> <Hexxeh>  it's certainly going to throttle before you kill it
> <Hexxeh>  i guess there's just too many factors that would affect it for
> me to call that
> <Hexxeh>  USB stack wise, as far as I know, but don't quote me
> <Hexxeh>  if you find it isn't, do report bugs and people will take care
> of it
> <Hexxeh>  i don't think we'd be releasing it if it weren't though ;)
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> <plugwash>  how is it cooled?
> <Hexxeh>  it's passively cooled
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> <Hexxeh>  heat gets conducted through the rest of the casing
> <Hexxeh>  as far as i know, anyway
> <Hexxeh>  i've used one of them for a while but i haven't torn it apart
> and don't know massive amounts about the internal design
> <plugwash>  yeah, i'm just wondering how badly they would suffer if you
> stacked a load of them on a rack shelf with USB3 hard drives and USB2
> ethernet adaptors and used them as autobuilders
> <Hexxeh>  just asked around people who know more about this stuff
> <Hexxeh>  go ahead and stack them with the lids closed
> <Hexxeh>  as long as you're not nailing the GPU you ought to be fine
> <Hexxeh>  :)

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