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Bug#966504: emacs-ivy: should suggest not recommend elpa-smex



Hello,

On Tue 04 Aug 2020 at 08:04AM -04, Nicholas D Steeves wrote:

>  By the way, I concede that choosing not to censure the
> human element of my changelog entry makes it appear that the decision
> was possibly an "emotional" rather than "rational" one.  Given the
> prevalence of negative and degrading changelog entries (eg: "useless",
> "good for nothing", "garbage", etc) there is precedent for
> rational+emotional in Debian culture, and I think we can agree that
> rational+positive_emotion entries are more congruent with the project's
> ideals.

I don't think this was what happened.  It was simply that you did not
make reference to our shared definition of the fields you were
modifying.

> I understand this is a qualitative and philosophical thing, and probably
> outside the scope of Policy, but if I interpret what you've written
> correctly, would it be this: Perfect documentation would be 100%
> comprehensive, but most users won't read it, and were they to spend the
> time reading it this would count as discovery? ...albeit probably not
> joyful, because I've never heard anyone describe the process of reading
> docs as such (except An Introduction to Programming in Emacs LISP.  That
> one is a joy!)  Otherwise, the quick-start guide might ideally omit
> certain details not only in the interests of brevity, but also to allow
> for the joy of discovery?

I've had plenty of enjoyable experiences with the Emacs manuals :)

A quick start guide is not a manual however.  So it could omit stuff in
the way that you describe.

>> Hard for me to say, to be honest, as I don't use smex or ivy or
>> counsel.
>>
>
> On this topic, would you like me to adopt smex?  I've noticed that it's
> your package and is in need of some work.  If so, please grant me DM for
> it.

That would be great, thank you.  Please remove me from Uploaders:.

-- 
Sean Whitton

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