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Re: cipus & cipus ... blá's



Hi Gilberto,

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 02:55:50PM -0300, gilberto dos santos alves wrote:

please make good talks in this debian edu .
could some one clear replica , treplica ... etc ... bla-bla-bla!
please! all we from Brazil (lots of teachers , voluntários, developpers,
educational consultant) are spend our time reading your messages to
understand, learn and talk about some developpment that is happen in
debian edu. So, please, lets go ahead!

Not quite sure I understand your point(s) above. So please correct me if it seems I misunderstood.

You ask us to relax the tone on the mailinglist, not talk about silly details on which alternative implementations are good or bad replacements for current tools.

I do not agree: I find it a highly relevant point to raise if the central administration tool is the best for Skolelinux needs, and if not, what alternatives are relevant to consider.

If some of you are not aware, CipUX is an alternative administration tool (or a framework to compose administration tools).

The reason CipUX pops up "out of the blue" yet discussed as if already used, is that a relatively large german rollout have been done using CipUX instead of LWAT.

While I do not agree that CipUX is shit (then obviously I would not have spent the last couple of years deeply involved with its packaging for Debian), I actually agree with most of the points raised about it, epecially usability issues of its frontends.

Personally I dislike PHP, and would do a lot to avoid it. Which I have done with my involvement in CipUX, a work that, much thanks to the struggles of that pilot project in germany, will soon be ready for worldwide production use.

Whether or not Skolelinux will embrace CipUX or not is yet to be seen. I deliberately avoid going into discussion about that until it is fully packaged and has entered testing (some parts are there but not enough to fairly judge it yet).


Kind regards,

 - Jonas

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