Re: gEDA packages for electronics category
n Fri, 2010-03-12 at 08:15 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Peter Clifton]
> > Hi guys,
> Hi. :)
> > I just noted that the "geda" suite is missing from the electronics
> > category of Debian Edu.
> Note that Debian Edu try to pick the best suited package in each
> category, to reduce the cognitive strain on educators when they look
> for applications to use, and not to provide all packages in a given
> With that background, can you explain why gEDA should be provided as a
> replacement for other similar packages?
gEDA is a nice schematic editor, but I could understand the choice to
omit it in favour of our competitor package KiCAD. KiCAD (IMO) currently
presents a much simpler, and more integrated user experience - but is
not as flexible as the with the gEDA suite.
gEDA's flexibility comes at the cost of a steep learning curve in some
areas. What threw me slightly, was that you include some seriously
advanced packages for things like ASIC design, gEDA's "PCB" package (but
not the gEDA/gaf tools which generate schematics and netlists for it),
And the Xcircuit schematic editor, which is a little quirky.. (but
admittedly produces nice schematics).
One advantage in gEDA I could possibly cite for educational use, is its
ability to paste schematics directly into a SVG image editor - such as
Inkscape, or OpenOffice. (Alright, this is a lie.. my development branch
can do those things - and the 1.8 series probably will, but not the
latest released 1.6.1 version).
> > The closest you might have alrady is KiCad (one of our competitor
> > packages). Some people like one, or the other better. In my opinion,
> > gEDA is a more versatile package in terms of its flexability, but it
> > holds your hand less in terms of a specific work-flow.
> Which one of these are most suited for pupils between 7 and 16 years
> old? What about pupils betwen 16 and 19?
gEDA would probably suite older / more advanced pupils.
I'll freely admit that KiCAD probably matches what people "expect" more
closely. gEDA follows a more unixy toolkit philosophy, and is not as
well integrated between its pieces. We (use / make available) gEDA at
Cambridge University, but it is use is not compulsory as part of any of
Perhaps this is something we can revisit when we've made gEDA a bit more
user friendly. I am perhaps selling gEDA a little short, but if you're
interested take a look at some demos I made for the university:
NB: Graphics rendering in the schematic editor package (particularly
text) has been much improved since I made that video.
And various screen-shots under this folder:
> Happy hacking,
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