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Re: Was: Re: Privacy, fare well. Hope we will see you again (Was: Debian Edu Extremadura work meeting june 2006)



Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2006, 15:54 +0100 schrieb cobaco (aka Bart
Cornelis):
> On Wednesday 04 January 2006 13:38, David C. Weichert wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 04.01.2006, 10:50 +0100 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> > > (And for those of you believing that we should let go of our freedom
> > > to gain security, I trust that you know that there is nothing new
> > > about this discussion, and probably also know this quote from
> > > President Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826): "Those who desire to give up
> > > freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve,
> > > either one."  It is still true today.  Power corrupts, and giving the
> > > government more power by reducing our freedom will not give us more
> > > security only less freedom)
> >
> > First I thought this must be Ben Franklin (1706-90) and read:
> >
> > "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
> > deserve neither liberty or security"
> 
> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin:
> 
> according to that it originally appeared as a motto on the title page of 'An 
> Historical Review of the Constitution and Government of 
> Pennsylvania' (1759) Which was attributed to Benjamin Franklin, though the 
> phrase is now believed to come from a fellow diplomat by the name of 
> Richard Jackson (and there's a letter wher Franklin says the quote isn't 
> his)
> 
Thank You! Also thank you for pointing out some more recent quotes :-)
What currently happens to civil liberties in western societies is
disgraceful. But it is nice to read about freedom and not just free
software on debian-edu, it makes me feel that Debian is a good choice,
not only because it's good software, but also because it has such a
strong commitment to free software.


Kind regards
David
-- 
There are no rules anywhere. -- The Discordian Society, page 00032

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