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Re: Fwd: Re: Bug#546731: dpkg: 1.15.4 version pulls kde for upgrade

On Tue, 15 Sep 2009, Aleksey Midenkov wrote:
> Guys! Placing some hints on dpkg about packages that may be broken is 
> wrong. Imagine that count of such packages is infinity, so you will 
> be keep putting all them inside dpkg control info? This is an 
> abstraction and the next is reality. You fixed a lot of good bugs but 
> made an requirement of switching from KDE 3 to KDE 4. Not everyone  
> believe that KDE 4 is better and such requirement is somehow clumsy 
> because the reason of it lies in some insignificant (by the 
> comparison with the topic of KDE version switching) busyness with 
> install-info. Please, be fair!

If you managed to put konqueror on hold, you can surely do the same
for dpkg. Sid evolves, if you don't want use newer software, then don't
use sid (hint: KDE4 replaces KDE3 in sid).
> > It doesn't pull anything new, it just forces the upgrade of what's
> > already installed if you have packages that have not been
> > transitionned to the separate install-info package.
> So, I required to go to KDE 4 from KDE 3 just because of some obscure 
> install-info that dpkg needs?

If you use sid yes, you can also decide to not upgrade dpkg or to rebuild
a patched dpkg that doesn't have the breaks relationship.

> Maybe it will be better to make it to live peacefully with old packages?

It does live peacefully with old packages, it tells them when a change
breaks them so that the user doesn't experience the breakage.

That said, the kind of breakage related to install-info is only of the
sort "my info page is not listed in the index". I agree it's not
an important breakage but I don't see a good reason to revert the change.

If KDE 4 doesn't suit you, you'd better file bugs on it so that it can be
usable for you when squeeze gets out.

Raphaël Hertzog

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