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Re: ITS process as a means to orphan packages



Hi,

I believe this use of the ITS process is problematic. We’ve discussed
this before, so I know you are aware of the concerns [1]. In our last
exchange you indicated that you would follow the ITS procedure as
intended.
I agree.

[1] #1094788, with further discussion in private mail.

I’m bringing this to debian-devel for broader input - both to verify
whether my understanding is correct and to see whether others consider
using the ITS process in this way (effectively as a route to orphan
packages) appropriate.
Devref §5.12 clearly [0] states what salvaging is for, and its limited scope. While it might be true we have *some* packages that are more or less bitrotting, abusing this process to orphan packages or just pushing QA fixes is not what is was designed for. Personally, I think the MIA process should be improved; that is, if a package is effectively "maintained" via NMUs, and no response is received from the original maintainer, it could be orphaned easier (without the maintainers consent). However just deciding to orphaning a package without prior process while not being the maintainer feels like slight abuse of said process to me.

I hope we can find a better solution for managing de-facto orphaned packages; until then, let's stick to established procedures.

best,

werdahias

PS: not subscibed, so please CC me for replies


Links:

[0]: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.en.html#package-salvaging


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